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How to put the same picture in multiple survey pages?

Sean L. — Thu, 04 Oct 2018 20:18:23 GMT

Hi all,

I would like to put a single same picture, which is randomized and selected, in multiple survey pages.

Here's the issue:

If I randomized and selected pictures just like

<picture picC>
/items = targetComb
/ size = (70%, 70%)
/ position = (70%, 60%)
/ select = noreplace(30)
</picture>

and put this picC into different survey pages (I would like to separate surveypages),

<surveypage slider>
/ stimulusframes = [1= noreplace(picC)]
</surveypage>

<surveypage radio>
/ stimulusframes = [1= noreplace(picC)]
</surveypage>

Inquisit selected different pictures from picC and put those pictures into each survey pages - I think Inquisit randomized piC pictures every time (maybe due to noreplace element in surveypages).
I am going to run multiple surveys by combining two surveypages (slider & radio).

Is there any way that I can randomize and select pictures and save those pictures in certain element so that I do not need to use noreplace?

RE: How to put the same picture in multiple survey pages?

Sean L. — Thu, 04 Oct 2018 20:18:23 GMT

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[b]Dave - Thursday, October 4, 2018[/b]

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[b]Sean L. - Thursday, October 4, 2018[/b]

Then I need to see the default saving data not from <data>.

I don't know how to connect the link, so I uploaded the text file. Please let me know if you have any concern about the file.

Thank you so much for your patience.

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As I told you, the <data> element does not apply to <survey> elements.

<survey survey>
/ pages = [1=slider; 2=radio]
/ showpagenumbers = false
/ recorddata = true
</survey>

thus is wrong and cannot work. You need to run your pages via a <block>, just as demonstrated in the example code in earlier in this thread:

https://www.millisecond.com/forums/FindPost25541.aspx

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My bad. I don' t understand why I changed that part. It works well.
Thank you so much for keeping answering questions. I appreciate your patience :)

RE: How to put the same picture in multiple survey pages?

Dave — Thu, 04 Oct 2018 19:50:57 GMT

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[b]Sean L. - Thursday, October 4, 2018[/b]

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RE: How to put the same picture in multiple survey pages?

Sean L. — Thu, 04 Oct 2018 19:46:34 GMT

RE: How to put the same picture in multiple survey pages?

Dave — Thu, 04 Oct 2018 19:23:35 GMT

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[b]Sean L. - Thursday, October 4, 2018[/b]

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[b]Dave - Thursday, October 4, 2018[/b]

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[b]Sean L. - Thursday, October 4, 2018[/b]

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[b]Dave - Monday, September 17, 2018[/b]

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[b]Sean L. - Monday, September 17, 2018[/b]

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[b]Dave - Monday, September 17, 2018[/b]

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[b]Sean L. - Saturday, September 15, 2018[/b]

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Yes, you need a <list> containing the item numbers and a value for selection. Sample an item number from the list in the 1st surveypage (and only the 1st page), store it in a value, and you'll have the same item displayed on both pages.

<picture picC>
/items = targetComb
/ select = values.piccitemnumber
/ size = (70%, 70%)
/ position = (70%, 60%)
</picture>

// we have 30 items, numbered 1 to 30
<list piccitemnumbers>
/ poolsize = 30
</list>

<values>
/ piccitemnumber = 1
</values>

<surveypage slider>
/ ontrialbegin = [
values.piccitemnumber = list.piccitemnumbers.nextindex;
]
/ stimulusframes = [1= picC]
</surveypage>

<surveypage radio>
/ stimulusframes = [1= picC]
</surveypage>

<block myblock>
/ trials = [1-30 = sequence(slider, radio)]
</block>

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Thank you so much Dave. It works well.

I have one more question:
I tried to select stimuli from two different groups (15 from each) and store them into the value element as you said,

<picture picB>
/ items = targetB
/ size = (70%, 70%)
/ position = (70%, 60%)
/ select = noreplace(15)
</picture>

<picture picW>
/ items = targetW
/ size = (70%, 70%)
/ position = (70%, 60%)
/ select = noreplace(15)
</picture>

<list picBW>
/items = (picture.picB, picture.picW)
/select = values.picBWItemNumber
</list>

<values>
/picBWItemNumber = 1
</values>

<list picBWItemNumbers>
/ poolsize = 30
</list>

<surveypage slider>
/ ontrialbegin = [
values.picBWItemNumber = list.picBWItemNumbers.nextindex
]
/ stimulusframes = [1= list.picBW]
</surveypage>

<surveypage radio>
/ stimulusframes = [1= list.picBW]
</surveypage>

and it said "list.picBW is not type of stimulus" even though the list element is used in stimulusframes attribute in Inquisit5 manual
(https://www.millisecond.com/support/docs/v5/html/language/attributes/stimulusframes.htm)

Could you please give me any hint?

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This code doesn't make sense in context.

<list picBWItemNumbers>
/ poolsize = 30
</list>

returns a number between 1 and 30, but

<list picBW>
/items = (picture.picB, picture.picW)
/select = values.picBWItemNumber
</list>

does NOT have 30 items, it only has two: picture.picB and picture.picW. So what you need the list to contain is 15 times the number 1, and 15 times the number 2. You need separate lists and a value for the 15 items that picture.picB and picture.picW hold respectively. Then just sample an item number from the applicable list. In summary:

<picture picB>
/ items = targetB
/ size = (70%, 70%)
/ position = (70%, 60%)
/ select = values.picnum
</picture>

<picture picW>
/ items = targetW
/ size = (70%, 70%)
/ position = (70%, 60%)
/ select = values.picnum
</picture>

<list picBW>
/items = (picture.picB, picture.picW)
/select = values.picBWItemNumber
</list>

<values>
/picBWItemNumber = 1
/picnum = 1
</values>

<list picBWItemNumbers>
/ items = (1,2)
/ poolsize = 30
</list>

<list Bitemnumbers>
/ poolsize = 15
</list>

<list Witemnumbers>
/ poolsize = 15
</list>

<surveypage slider>
/ ontrialbegin = [
values.picBWItemNumber = list.picBWItemNumbers.nextvalue;
]
/ ontrialbegin = [
if (values.picBWItemNumber == 1) values.picnum = list.Bitemnumbers.nextindex;
if (values.picBWItemNumber == 2) values.picnum = list.Witemnumbers.nextindex;
]
/ stimulusframes = [1= list.picBW]
</surveypage>

<surveypage radio>
/ stimulusframes = [1= list.picBW]
</surveypage>

<block myblock>
/ trials = [1-30 = sequence(slider, radio)]
</block>

<item targetB>
/ 1 = "b01.jpg"
/ 2 = "b02.jpg"
/ 3 = "b03.jpg"
/ 4 = "b04.jpg"
/ 5 = "b05.jpg"
/ 6 = "b06.jpg"
/ 7 = "b07.jpg"
/ 8 = "b08.jpg"
/ 9 = "b09.jpg"
/ 10 = "b10.jpg"
/ 11 = "b11.jpg"
/ 12 = "b12.jpg"
/ 13 = "b13.jpg"
/ 14 = "b14.jpg"
/ 15 = "b15.jpg"
</item>

<item targetW>
/ 1 = "w01.jpg"
/ 2 = "w02.jpg"
/ 3 = "w03.jpg"
/ 4 = "w04.jpg"
/ 5 = "w05.jpg"
/ 6 = "w06.jpg"
/ 7 = "w07.jpg"
/ 8 = "w08.jpg"
/ 9 = "w09.jpg"
/ 10 = "w10.jpg"
/ 11 = "w11.jpg"
/ 12 = "w12.jpg"
/ 13 = "w13.jpg"
/ 14 = "w14.jpg"
/ 15 = "w15.jpg"
</item>

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Hi Dave,
I am sorry but I need to ask another dumb question.
It works very well, but I found that the label of stimulus is missing in default saving data.
So I tried to save the data by using <data>, but it did not work as well.

<data>
/file = "sliders_data.iqdat"
/columns = [date, time, group, subject, blockcode, blocknum, trialcode, trialnum, response, correct, latency,
values.picnum, stimulusnumber, stimulusitem]
/separatefiles = true
</data>

This code gives me only one subject data (only one line) - maybe very last one?. Could you please give me any clue? Either default or <data> saving is fine.

By the way, in Inquisit Web, when I wanted to change the code and see the result, I needed to change the whole script not a single file (even if I deleted a certain file from the list, it worked). Is there any other way that I can see the result more quickly?

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> This code gives me only one subject data (only one line) - maybe very last one?

I don't understand what this means. Please give a concrete example. The very last one of what?

> By the way, in Inquisit Web, when I wanted to change the code and see the result, I needed to change the whole script not a single file (even if I deleted a certain file from the list, it worked). Is there any other way that I can see the result more quickly?

I don't understand what this means, either. Can you please explain more clearly what exactly you are trying to do?

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Hi Dave, sorry for the poor description.

This is an actual result from <data> code that I posted. Only one result out of 30 trials was recorded.

And this is default data from Inquisit web - as you can see, there is no stimulus column.

2. For the Inquisit web, I needed to delete the whole script and make a new script to check the output of new code. If I re-uploaded just a single file, such as sliders.iqx from the list, the output was same as previous one. I'll check this again in case I made a mistake.

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Neither screengrab you posted matches the <data> element specification you posted. I do not know what you're recording there and I cannot tell you without seeing the actual code. At a minimum, please link to the web experiment, please. Thanks. Note that you *must* run your surveypages via a <block> element to have them recorded in the raw data file. The <data> element does not apply when you run them via a <survey> element.

RE: How to put the same picture in multiple survey pages?

Sean L. — Thu, 04 Oct 2018 18:22:52 GMT

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[b]Dave - Thursday, October 4, 2018[/b]

[quote]

[b]Sean L. - Thursday, October 4, 2018[/b]

[quote]

[b]Dave - Monday, September 17, 2018[/b]

[quote]

[b]Sean L. - Monday, September 17, 2018[/b]

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[b]Dave - Monday, September 17, 2018[/b]

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[b]Sean L. - Saturday, September 15, 2018[/b]

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RE: How to put the same picture in multiple survey pages?

Dave — Thu, 04 Oct 2018 18:04:42 GMT

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[b]Sean L. - Thursday, October 4, 2018[/b]

[quote]

[b]Dave - Monday, September 17, 2018[/b]

[quote]

[b]Sean L. - Monday, September 17, 2018[/b]

[quote]

[b]Dave - Monday, September 17, 2018[/b]

[quote]

[b]Sean L. - Saturday, September 15, 2018[/b]

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RE: How to put the same picture in multiple survey pages?

Sean L. — Thu, 04 Oct 2018 16:22:37 GMT

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[b]Dave - Monday, September 17, 2018[/b]

[quote]

[b]Sean L. - Monday, September 17, 2018[/b]

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[b]Dave - Monday, September 17, 2018[/b]

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[b]Sean L. - Saturday, September 15, 2018[/b]

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RE: How to put the same picture in multiple survey pages?

Sean L. — Mon, 17 Sep 2018 16:11:27 GMT

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[b]Dave - Monday, September 17, 2018[/b]

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[b]Sean L. - Monday, September 17, 2018[/b]

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[b]Dave - Monday, September 17, 2018[/b]

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[b]Sean L. - Saturday, September 15, 2018[/b]

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It works !! Thank you so much. I appreciate it.

RE: How to put the same picture in multiple survey pages?

Dave — Mon, 17 Sep 2018 13:47:14 GMT

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[b]Sean L. - Monday, September 17, 2018[/b]

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[b]Dave - Monday, September 17, 2018[/b]

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[b]Sean L. - Saturday, September 15, 2018[/b]

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RE: How to put the same picture in multiple survey pages?

Sean L. — Mon, 17 Sep 2018 11:35:26 GMT

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[b]Dave - Monday, September 17, 2018[/b]

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[b]Sean L. - Saturday, September 15, 2018[/b]

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RE: How to put the same picture in multiple survey pages?

Dave — Mon, 17 Sep 2018 07:15:03 GMT

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[b]Sean L. - Saturday, September 15, 2018[/b]

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