﻿<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"><channel><title>Millisecond Forums » Millisecond Forums » Inquisit 5  » D value for compatible and not compatible blocks</title><generator>InstantForum 2017-1 Final</generator><description>Millisecond Forums</description><link>https://forums.millisecond.com/</link><webMaster>Millisecond Forums</webMaster><lastBuildDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2026 07:20:43 GMT</lastBuildDate><ttl>20</ttl><item><title>D value for compatible and not compatible blocks</title><link>https://forums.millisecond.com/Topic27255.aspx</link><description>Hi,&lt;br/&gt;I have a few questions regarding the D value. My supervisor would like me to count the D value for the compatible block (in my case those are blocks 3 and 5) and for the incompatible blocks (in my case 7 and 9). Now, obviously, the D value for the compatible blocks is counted - this is the value in the column expressions.d in the last row of the last compatible block. However, it is not the same case for the incompatible blocks - this one I have to count by myself, right? Because the last D value of incompatible blocks is the actual D value (so the actual IAT effect).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Now, I have a question regarding interpreting the data. If the D value for the compatible blocks equals&amp;nbsp;-1,4592282838115384624, then what does that tell me? Does it mean it was easier for the person to put the positive words to their own group? When is the score negative and when is it positive? How would that look for the incompatible blocks?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;For the record, in my IAT it looks like this: attributes A are positive, attributes B are negative, target A is their own group, target B is the other.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thank you in advance for the help!</description><pubDate>Fri, 07 Jun 2019 09:16:03 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>missnatalien</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: D value for compatible and not compatible blocks</title><link>https://forums.millisecond.com/Topic27258.aspx</link><description>&lt;div data-id="27257" class="if-quote-wrapper" unselectable="on" data-guid="1559924040869"&gt;&lt;a class="quote-para" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="27257" title="Move Cursor Below" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a class="quote-delete" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="27257" title="Delete Quote" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;x&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-header" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-toggle-wrapper"&gt;&lt;a class="if-quote-toggle quote-link" href="#" data-id="27257" title=" "&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[b]&lt;/span&gt;missnatalien - 6/7/2019&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[/b]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message if-quote-message-27257"&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message-margin"&gt;&lt;div data-id="27256" class="if-quote-wrapper" unselectable="on" data-guid="1559924040869"&gt;&lt;a class="quote-para" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="27256" title="Move Cursor Below" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a class="quote-delete" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="27256" title="Delete Quote" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;x&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-header" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-toggle-wrapper"&gt;&lt;a class="if-quote-toggle quote-link" href="#" data-id="27256" title=" "&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[b]&lt;/span&gt;Dave - 6/7/2019&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[/b]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message if-quote-message-27256"&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message-margin"&gt;&lt;div data-id="27255" class="if-quote-wrapper" unselectable="on" data-guid="1559924040869"&gt;&lt;a class="quote-para" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="27255" title="Move Cursor Below" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a class="quote-delete" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="27255" title="Delete Quote" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;x&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-header" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-toggle-wrapper"&gt;&lt;a class="if-quote-toggle quote-link" href="#" data-id="27255" title=" "&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[b]&lt;/span&gt;missnatalien - 6/7/2019&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[/b]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message if-quote-message-27255"&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message-margin"&gt;Hi,&lt;br/&gt;I have a few questions regarding the D value. My supervisor would like me to count the D value for the compatible block (in my case those are blocks 3 and 5) and for the incompatible blocks (in my case 7 and 9). Now, obviously, the D value for the compatible blocks is counted - this is the value in the column expressions.d in the last row of the last compatible block. However, it is not the same case for the incompatible blocks - this one I have to count by myself, right? Because the last D value of incompatible blocks is the actual D value (so the actual IAT effect).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Now, I have a question regarding interpreting the data. If the D value for the compatible blocks equals&amp;nbsp;-1,4592282838115384624, then what does that tell me? Does it mean it was easier for the person to put the positive words to their own group? When is the score negative and when is it positive? How would that look for the incompatible blocks?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;For the record, in my IAT it looks like this: attributes A are positive, attributes B are negative, target A is their own group, target B is the other.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thank you in advance for the help!&lt;a class="if-quote-goto quote-link" href="#" data-id="27255"&gt;&lt;span class="goto"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="quote-markup"&gt;[/quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You're misunderstanding D. There can be no such thing as a D value for the compatible blocks and a D value for the incompatible blocks. The D-score does -- and must by definition -- reflect both. Simplified, D is calculated as&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;D = (mean response time in &lt;strong&gt;incompatible &lt;/strong&gt;blocks - mean response time in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;compatible &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;blocks) / standard deviation of response time in all blocks&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There is nothing to count. The D value in the final row of your data set is the final and only D value. All values before that are merely "this is the D score based on the data up to and including the current trial."&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a class="if-quote-goto quote-link" href="#" data-id="27256"&gt;&lt;span class="goto"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="quote-markup"&gt;[/quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Okay, thank you very much. I think I should talk to my professor now and explain the same thing to him. He wanted me to compare compatible blocks and incompatible blocks. How should I do that then? I have two samples: 40 Germans and 40 Poles. He wanted me to compare the compatible blocks between Germans and Poles and to do the same with incompatible blocks. Is that possible then?&lt;a class="if-quote-goto quote-link" href="#" data-id="27257"&gt;&lt;span class="goto"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="quote-markup"&gt;[/quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Not with D-scores, no. As explained above, D-scores are difference scores (difference in performance in incompatible vs compatible blocks).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;To expand: A D score &lt;strong&gt;already &lt;/strong&gt;compares compatible vs incompatible.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Now, let's say you conducted a Germany vs Poland IAT. What you'd expect, then, is that your German participants' D scores would reflect preference for Germany (their in-group), whereas your Polish participants' D scores would reflect a preference for Poland (their in-group). And that's what you'd want to compare in a scenario like this.&lt;br/&gt;</description><pubDate>Fri, 07 Jun 2019 09:16:03 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: D value for compatible and not compatible blocks</title><link>https://forums.millisecond.com/Topic27257.aspx</link><description>&lt;div data-id="27256" class="if-quote-wrapper" unselectable="on" data-guid="1559923605937"&gt;&lt;a class="quote-para" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="27256" title="Move Cursor Below" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a class="quote-delete" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="27256" title="Delete Quote" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;x&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-header" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-toggle-wrapper"&gt;&lt;a class="if-quote-toggle quote-link" href="#" data-id="27256" title=" "&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[b]&lt;/span&gt;Dave - 6/7/2019&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[/b]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message if-quote-message-27256"&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message-margin"&gt;&lt;div data-id="27255" class="if-quote-wrapper" unselectable="on" data-guid="1559923605937"&gt;&lt;a class="quote-para" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="27255" title="Move Cursor Below" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a class="quote-delete" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="27255" title="Delete Quote" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;x&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-header" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-toggle-wrapper"&gt;&lt;a class="if-quote-toggle quote-link" href="#" data-id="27255" title=" "&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[b]&lt;/span&gt;missnatalien - 6/7/2019&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[/b]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message if-quote-message-27255"&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message-margin"&gt;Hi,&lt;br/&gt;I have a few questions regarding the D value. My supervisor would like me to count the D value for the compatible block (in my case those are blocks 3 and 5) and for the incompatible blocks (in my case 7 and 9). Now, obviously, the D value for the compatible blocks is counted - this is the value in the column expressions.d in the last row of the last compatible block. However, it is not the same case for the incompatible blocks - this one I have to count by myself, right? Because the last D value of incompatible blocks is the actual D value (so the actual IAT effect).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Now, I have a question regarding interpreting the data. If the D value for the compatible blocks equals&amp;nbsp;-1,4592282838115384624, then what does that tell me? Does it mean it was easier for the person to put the positive words to their own group? When is the score negative and when is it positive? How would that look for the incompatible blocks?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;For the record, in my IAT it looks like this: attributes A are positive, attributes B are negative, target A is their own group, target B is the other.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thank you in advance for the help!&lt;a class="if-quote-goto quote-link" href="#" data-id="27255"&gt;&lt;span class="goto"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="quote-markup"&gt;[/quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You're misunderstanding D. There can be no such thing as a D value for the compatible blocks and a D value for the incompatible blocks. The D-score does -- and must by definition -- reflect both. Simplified, D is calculated as&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;D = (mean response time in &lt;strong&gt;incompatible &lt;/strong&gt;blocks - mean response time in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;compatible &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;blocks) / standard deviation of response time in all blocks&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There is nothing to count. The D value in the final row of your data set is the final and only D value. All values before that are merely "this is the D score based on the data up to and including the current trial."&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a class="if-quote-goto quote-link" href="#" data-id="27256"&gt;&lt;span class="goto"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="quote-markup"&gt;[/quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Okay, thank you very much. I think I should talk to my professor now and explain the same thing to him. He wanted me to compare compatible blocks and incompatible blocks. How should I do that then? I have two samples: 40 Germans and 40 Poles. He wanted me to compare the compatible blocks between Germans and Poles and to do the same with incompatible blocks. Is that possible then?</description><pubDate>Fri, 07 Jun 2019 09:12:24 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>missnatalien</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: D value for compatible and not compatible blocks</title><link>https://forums.millisecond.com/Topic27256.aspx</link><description>&lt;div data-id="27255" class="if-quote-wrapper" unselectable="on" data-guid="1559923240388"&gt;&lt;a class="quote-para" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="27255" title="Move Cursor Below" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a class="quote-delete" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="27255" title="Delete Quote" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;x&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-header" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-toggle-wrapper"&gt;&lt;a class="if-quote-toggle quote-link" href="#" data-id="27255" title=" "&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[b]&lt;/span&gt;missnatalien - 6/7/2019&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[/b]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message if-quote-message-27255"&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message-margin"&gt;Hi,&lt;br/&gt;I have a few questions regarding the D value. My supervisor would like me to count the D value for the compatible block (in my case those are blocks 3 and 5) and for the incompatible blocks (in my case 7 and 9). Now, obviously, the D value for the compatible blocks is counted - this is the value in the column expressions.d in the last row of the last compatible block. However, it is not the same case for the incompatible blocks - this one I have to count by myself, right? Because the last D value of incompatible blocks is the actual D value (so the actual IAT effect).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Now, I have a question regarding interpreting the data. If the D value for the compatible blocks equals&amp;nbsp;-1,4592282838115384624, then what does that tell me? Does it mean it was easier for the person to put the positive words to their own group? When is the score negative and when is it positive? How would that look for the incompatible blocks?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;For the record, in my IAT it looks like this: attributes A are positive, attributes B are negative, target A is their own group, target B is the other.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thank you in advance for the help!&lt;a class="if-quote-goto quote-link" href="#" data-id="27255"&gt;&lt;span class="goto"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="quote-markup"&gt;[/quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You're misunderstanding D. There can be no such thing as a D value for the compatible blocks and a D value for the incompatible blocks. The D-score does -- and must by definition -- reflect both. Simplified, D is calculated as&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;D = (mean response time in &lt;strong&gt;incompatible &lt;/strong&gt;blocks - mean response time in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;compatible &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;blocks) / standard deviation of response time in all blocks&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There is nothing to count. The D value in the final row of your data set is the final and only D value. All values before that are merely "this is the D score based on the data up to and including the current trial."&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As for interpreting D-scores, see &lt;a href="https://www.millisecond.com/forums/Topic3444.aspx"&gt;https://www.millisecond.com/forums/Topic3444.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;</description><pubDate>Fri, 07 Jun 2019 09:05:49 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator></item></channel></rss>