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conditional trajectories

troyh — Sat, 19 Sep 2020 02:36:00 GMT

Hello!

Is it possible to program, e.g., the following:

Let's say I have 4 "room descriptions" that are presented with 2-4 items in each room. You can click on one item at a time, which will lead to its own description, but then returns to the room description. To go from room to room, there are "keys" that get presented following 1 of 4 different contingencies: i) all items have to be clicked on, ii) the same item has to be clicked on twice, iii) the same item has to be clicked on twice in a row, and iv) after the 6th click.
Essentially, I'm envisioning something like,
<trial room1>
/stimulusframes = [ room1description, item1, item2, item3, item4, item1description, item2description, item3description, item4description ]
/branch = [ (if trial.room1.response == "item1"){ return item1description; }

And, with each item description, I have a return button that returns to the room description, unless the contingency for that room is met. The problems I'm running into are that I have two separate trials for each "item" (which is really a link to its description) and "item description", when everything has to be randomized. By everything I mean which contingency is applied to which room and the overall order of the rooms need to be randomized.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

RE: conditional trajectories

troyh — Sat, 19 Sep 2020 02:36:00 GMT

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[b]Dave - 9/19/2020[/b]
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[b]troyh - 9/19/2020[/b]
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[b]troyh - 9/19/2020[/b]
Thank you for all the hel
[/quote]

help!
[/quote]

My pleasure. To add the remaining three rooms, you'd just set up blocks and trials for B, C and D in the same manner. Then sample those blocks in random order at the <expt> level

<expt>
/ blocks = [1-4 = noreplace(room_a_block, room_b_block, room_c_block, room_d_block)]
...
</expt>
[/quote]

Got it. Will do. This is incredibly helpful

RE: conditional trajectories

Dave — Sat, 19 Sep 2020 02:29:03 GMT

+x[quote]

[b]troyh - 9/19/2020[/b]
+x[quote]

[b]troyh - 9/19/2020[/b]
Thank you for all the hel
[/quote]

help!
[/quote]

My pleasure. To add the remaining three rooms, you'd just set up blocks and trials for B, C and D in the same manner. Then sample those blocks in random order at the <expt> level

<expt>
/ blocks = [1-4 = noreplace(room_a_block, room_b_block, room_c_block, room_d_block)]
...
</expt>

RE: conditional trajectories

troyh — Sat, 19 Sep 2020 02:26:17 GMT

+x[quote]

[b]troyh - 9/19/2020[/b]
Thank you for all the hel
[/quote]

help!

RE: conditional trajectories

troyh — Sat, 19 Sep 2020 02:26:02 GMT

Thank you for all the hel

RE: conditional trajectories

Dave — Sat, 19 Sep 2020 02:21:58 GMT

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[b]troyh - 9/19/2020[/b]
Is it possible to have the 'key text' appear in the frame with the item description, so that, after the contingency is met, a participant would still click 'return', however, this time the 'key text' appears on screen with that item description along with the next room button?
[/quote]

Sure.

<values>
/ roomconstraint = 0
/ n_roomitems = 0
/ item1_nclicks = 0
/ item2_nclicks = 0
/ item3_nclicks = 0
/ item4_nclicks = 0
/ lastresponse = ""
/ constraint_met = false
/ descriptionitem = 1
/ buttontext = ""
/ keytext = ""
</values>

1 = click all
2 = click same item twice
3 = click same item twice in a row
4 = six clicks
<list constraints>
/ items = (1, 2, 3, 4)
</list>

<block room_a_block>
/ onblockbegin = [
    values.keytext = "";
    values.descriptionitem = 1;
    values.buttontext = "RETURN";
    values.item1_nclicks = 0;
    values.item2_nclicks = 0;
    values.item3_nclicks = 0;
    values.item4_nclicks = 0;
    values.lastresponse = "";
    values.constraint_met = false;
    values.n_roomitems = 4;
    values.roomconstraint = list.constraints.nextvalue;
]
/ trials = [1=room_a]
</block>

<trial room_a>
/ ontrialbegin = [
    values.lastresponse = trial.room_a.response;
]
/ stimulusframes = [1=clearscreen, room_a_description, room_a_item1, room_a_item2, room_a_item3, room_a_item4]
/ inputdevice = mouse
/ validresponse = (room_a_item1, room_a_item2, room_a_item3, room_a_item4)
/ ontrialend = [
    if (trial.room_a.response == "room_a_item1"){
        values.descriptionitem = 1;
        values.item1_nclicks += 1;
    } else if (trial.room_a.response == "room_a_item2"){
        values.descriptionitem = 2;
        values.item2_nclicks += 1;
    } else if (trial.room_a.response == "room_a_item3"){
        values.descriptionitem = 3;
        values.item3_nclicks += 1;
    } else if (trial.room_a.response == "room_a_item4"){
        values.descriptionitem = 4;
        values.item4_nclicks += 1;
    };
]
/ ontrialend = [
    if (values.roomconstraint == 1){
        if (values.item1_nclicks > 0 && values.item2_nclicks > 0 && values.item3_nclicks > 0 && values.item4_nclicks > 0){
            values.constraint_met = true;
        }
    } else if (values.roomconstraint == 2){
        if (values.item1_nclicks >= 2 || values.item2_nclicks >= 2 || values.item3_nclicks >= 2 || values.item4_nclicks >= 2){
            values.constraint_met = true;
        }
    } else if (values.roomconstraint == 3){
        if (trial.room_a.response == values.lastresponse) {
            values.constraint_met = true;
        }
    } else if (values.roomconstraint == 4) {
        if (values.item1_nclicks + values.item2_nclicks + values.item3_nclicks + values.item4_nclicks >= 6) {
            values.constraint_met = true;
        }
    }
]
/ branch = [
    trial.room_a_item_description;
]
</trial>

<trial room_a_item_description>
/ ontrialbegin = [
    if (values.constraint_met) {
        values.buttontext = "NEXT ROOM";
        values.keytext = "You've found the key and can advance to the next room.";
    };
]
/ stimulusframes = [1=clearscreen, room_a_item_description, return]
/ inputdevice = mouse
/ validresponse = (return)
/ branch = [
    if (!values.constraint_met) {
        trial.room_a;
    };
]
</trial>

<text room_a_description>
/ items = ("Description of Room A")
/ erase = false
/ position = (50%, 15%)
</text>

<text room_a_item1>
/ items = ("Item 1")
/ erase = false
/ position = (20%, 50%)
</text>

<text room_a_item2>
/ items = ("Item 2")
/ erase = false
/ position = (40%, 50%)
</text>

<text room_a_item3>
/ items = ("Item 3")
/ erase = false
/ position = (60%, 50%)
</text>

<text room_a_item4>
/ items = ("Item 4")
/ erase = false
/ position = (80%, 50%)
</text>

<text room_a_item_description>
/ items = ("Description of item 1.~n<%values.keytext%>", "Description of item 2.~n<%values.keytext%>", "Description of item 3.~n<%values.keytext%>", "Description of item 4.~n<%values.keytext%>")
/ select = values.descriptionitem
/ erase = false
/ position = (50%, 40%)
/ size = (50%, 20%)
</text>

<button return>
/ caption = "<%values.buttontext%>"
/ size = (10%, 5%)
/ position = (50%, 60%)
</button>

RE: conditional trajectories

troyh — Sat, 19 Sep 2020 02:16:02 GMT

Is it possible to have the 'key text' appear in the frame with the item description, so that, after the contingency is met, a participant would still click 'return', however, this time the 'key text' appears on screen with that item description along with the next room button?

RE: conditional trajectories

Dave — Sat, 19 Sep 2020 02:11:19 GMT

Or a bit more concise:

<values>
/ roomconstraint = 0
/ n_roomitems = 0
/ item1_nclicks = 0
/ item2_nclicks = 0
/ item3_nclicks = 0
/ item4_nclicks = 0
/ lastresponse = ""
/ constraint_met = false
/ descriptionitem = 1
/ buttontext = ""
</values>

1 = click all
2 = click same item twice
3 = click same item twice in a row
4 = six clicks
<list constraints>
/ items = (1, 2, 3, 4)
</list>

<block room_a_block>
/ onblockbegin = [
    values.descriptionitem = 1;
    values.buttontext = "RETURN";
    values.item1_nclicks = 0;
    values.item2_nclicks = 0;
    values.item3_nclicks = 0;
    values.item4_nclicks = 0;
    values.lastresponse = "";
    values.constraint_met = false;
    values.n_roomitems = 4;
    values.roomconstraint = list.constraints.nextvalue;
]
/ trials = [1=room_a]
</block>

<trial room_a>
/ ontrialbegin = [
    values.lastresponse = trial.room_a.response;
]
/ stimulusframes = [1=clearscreen, room_a_description, room_a_item1, room_a_item2, room_a_item3, room_a_item4]
/ inputdevice = mouse
/ validresponse = (room_a_item1, room_a_item2, room_a_item3, room_a_item4)
/ ontrialend = [
    if (trial.room_a.response == "room_a_item1"){
        values.descriptionitem = 1;
        values.item1_nclicks += 1;
    } else if (trial.room_a.response == "room_a_item2"){
        values.descriptionitem = 2;
        values.item2_nclicks += 1;
    } else if (trial.room_a.response == "room_a_item3"){
        values.descriptionitem = 3;
        values.item3_nclicks += 1;
    } else if (trial.room_a.response == "room_a_item4"){
        values.descriptionitem = 4;
        values.item4_nclicks += 1;
    };
]
/ ontrialend = [
    if (values.roomconstraint == 1){
        if (values.item1_nclicks > 0 && values.item2_nclicks > 0 && values.item3_nclicks > 0 && values.item4_nclicks > 0){
            values.constraint_met = true;
        }
    } else if (values.roomconstraint == 2){
        if (values.item1_nclicks >= 2 || values.item2_nclicks >= 2 || values.item3_nclicks >= 2 || values.item4_nclicks >= 2){
            values.constraint_met = true;
        }
    } else if (values.roomconstraint == 3){
        if (trial.room_a.response == values.lastresponse) {
            values.constraint_met = true;
        }
    } else if (values.roomconstraint == 4) {
        if (values.item1_nclicks + values.item2_nclicks + values.item3_nclicks + values.item4_nclicks >= 6) {
            values.constraint_met = true;
        }
    }
]
/ branch = [
    trial.room_a_item_description;
]
</trial>

<trial room_a_item_description>
/ ontrialbegin = [
    if (values.constraint_met) {
        values.buttontext = "NEXT ROOM";
        trial.room_a_item_description.insertstimulusframe(text.key_message,1);
    };
]
/ ontrialend = [
    trial.room_a_item_description.resetstimulusframes();
]
/ stimulusframes = [1=clearscreen, room_a_item_description, return]
/ inputdevice = mouse
/ validresponse = (return)
/ branch = [
    if (!values.constraint_met) {
        trial.room_a;
    };
]
</trial>

<text room_a_description>
/ items = ("Description of Room A")
/ erase = false
/ position = (50%, 15%)
</text>

<text room_a_item1>
/ items = ("Item 1")
/ erase = false
/ position = (20%, 50%)
</text>

<text room_a_item2>
/ items = ("Item 2")
/ erase = false
/ position = (40%, 50%)
</text>

<text room_a_item3>
/ items = ("Item 3")
/ erase = false
/ position = (60%, 50%)
</text>

<text room_a_item4>
/ items = ("Item 4")
/ erase = false
/ position = (80%, 50%)
</text>

<text room_a_item_description>
/ items = ("Description of item 1", "Description of item 2", "Description of item 3", "Description of item 4")
/ select = values.descriptionitem
/ erase = false
/ position = (50%, 40%)
/ size = (50%, 20%)
</text>

<text key_message>
/ items = ("You've found the key and can advance to the next room.")
/ position = (50%, 40%)
/ size = (50%, 20%)
</text>

<button return>
/ caption = "<%values.buttontext%>"
/ size = (10%, 5%)
/ position = (50%, 60%)
</button>

RE: conditional trajectories

troyh — Sat, 19 Sep 2020 02:11:01 GMT

Thank you , this is absolutely perfect. I really appreciate it.

RE: conditional trajectories

Dave — Sat, 19 Sep 2020 01:55:19 GMT

+x[quote]

[b]troyh - 9/19/2020[/b]
+x[quote]

[b]Dave - 9/19/2020[/b]
+x[quote]

[b]troyh - 9/18/2020[/b]
Hello!

Is it possible to program, e.g., the following:

Let's say I have 4 "room descriptions" that are presented with 2-4 items in each room. You can click on one item at a time, which will lead to its own description, but then returns to the room description. To go from room to room, there are "keys" that get presented following 1 of 4 different contingencies: i) all items have to be clicked on, ii) the same item has to be clicked on twice, iii) the same item has to be clicked on twice in a row, and iv) after the 6th click.
Essentially, I'm envisioning something like,
<trial room1>
/stimulusframes = [ room1description, item1, item2, item3, item4, item1description, item2description, item3description, item4description ]
/branch = [ (if trial.room1.response == "item1"){ return item1description; }

And, with each item description, I have a return button that returns to the room description, unless the contingency for that room is met. The problems I'm running into are that I have two separate trials for each "item" (which is really a link to its description) and "item description", when everything has to be randomized. By everything I mean which contingency is applied to which room and the overall order of the rooms need to be randomized.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[/quote]

> The problems I'm running into are that I have two separate trials for each "item"

Why?

Also, it's not a problem to apply different contingencies to different "rooms" at random, not sure what you're struggling with in that regard.
[/quote]

Sorry, I wasn't really clear at all and am new to all this. I guess what I'm trying to figure out is how--if each 'item description' has a return button to return to the room description--to randomly incorporate a new stimulus instead of that return button when the room-specific contingency is met.
[/quote]

The basic gist (here: one room as an example) goes like this, I think?

<values>
/ roomconstraint = 0
/ n_roomitems = 0
/ item1_nclicks = 0
/ item2_nclicks = 0
/ item3_nclicks = 0
/ item4_nclicks = 0
/ lastresponse = ""
/ constraint_met = false
/ buttontext = ""
</values>

1 = click all
2 = click same item twice
3 = click same item twice in a row
4 = six clicks
<list constraints>
/ items = (1, 2, 3, 4)
</list>

<block room_a_block>
/ onblockbegin = [
    values.buttontext = "RETURN";
    values.item1_nclicks = 0;
    values.item2_nclicks = 0;
    values.item3_nclicks = 0;
    values.item4_nclicks = 0;
    values.lastresponse = "";
    values.constraint_met = false;
    values.n_roomitems = 4;
    values.roomconstraint = list.constraints.nextvalue;
]
/ trials = [1=room_a]
</block>

<trial room_a>
/ ontrialbegin = [
    values.lastresponse = trial.room_a.response;
]
/ stimulusframes = [1=clearscreen, room_a_description, room_a_item1, room_a_item2, room_a_item3, room_a_item4]
/ inputdevice = mouse
/ validresponse = (room_a_item1, room_a_item2, room_a_item3, room_a_item4)
/ ontrialend = [
    if (trial.room_a.response == "room_a_item1"){
        values.item1_nclicks += 1;
    } else if (trial.room_a.response == "room_a_item2"){
        values.item2_nclicks += 1;
    } else if (trial.room_a.response == "room_a_item3"){
        values.item3_nclicks += 1;
    } else if (trial.room_a.response == "room_a_item4"){
        values.item4_nclicks += 1;
    };
]
/ ontrialend = [
    if (values.roomconstraint == 1){
        if (values.item1_nclicks > 0 && values.item2_nclicks > 0 && values.item3_nclicks > 0 && values.item4_nclicks > 0){
            values.constraint_met = true;
        }
    } else if (values.roomconstraint == 2){
        if (values.item1_nclicks >= 2 || values.item2_nclicks >= 2 || values.item3_nclicks >= 2 || values.item4_nclicks >= 2){
            values.constraint_met = true;
        }
    } else if (values.roomconstraint == 3){
        if (trial.room_a.response == values.lastresponse) {
            values.constraint_met = true;
        }
    } else if (values.roomconstraint == 4) {
        if (values.item1_nclicks + values.item2_nclicks + values.item3_nclicks + values.item4_nclicks >= 6) {
            values.constraint_met = true;
        }
    }
]
/ branch = [
    if (trial.room_a.response == "room_a_item1"){
        trial.room_a_item1_description;
    } else if (trial.room_a.response == "room_a_item2"){
        trial.room_a_item2_description;
    } else if (trial.room_a.response == "room_a_item3"){
        trial.room_a_item3_description;
    } else if (trial.room_a.response == "room_a_item4"){
        trial.room_a_item4_description;
    };
]
</trial>

<trial room_a_item1_description>
/ ontrialbegin = [
    if (values.constraint_met) {
        values.buttontext = "NEXT ROOM";
        trial.room_a_item1_description.insertstimulusframe(text.key_message,1);
    };
]
/ ontrialend = [
    trial.room_a_item1_description.resetstimulusframes();
]
/ stimulusframes = [1=clearscreen, room_a_item1_description, return]
/ inputdevice = mouse
/ validresponse = (return)
/ branch = [
    if (!values.constraint_met) {
        trial.room_a;
    };
]
</trial>

<trial room_a_item2_description>
/ ontrialbegin = [
    if (values.constraint_met) {
        values.buttontext = "NEXT ROOM";
        trial.room_a_item2_description.insertstimulusframe(text.key_message,1);
    };
]
/ ontrialend = [
    trial.room_a_item2_description.resetstimulusframes();
]
/ stimulusframes = [1=clearscreen, room_a_item2_description, return]
/ inputdevice = mouse
/ validresponse = (return)
/ branch = [
    if (!values.constraint_met) {
        trial.room_a;
    };
]
</trial>

<trial room_a_item3_description>
/ ontrialbegin = [
    if (values.constraint_met) {
        values.buttontext = "NEXT ROOM";
        trial.room_a_item3_description.insertstimulusframe(text.key_message,1);
    };
]
/ ontrialend = [
    trial.room_a_item3_description.resetstimulusframes();
]
/ stimulusframes = [1=clearscreen, room_a_item3_description, return]
/ inputdevice = mouse
/ validresponse = (return)
/ branch = [
    if (!values.constraint_met) {
        trial.room_a;
    };
]
</trial>

<trial room_a_item4_description>
/ ontrialbegin = [
    if (values.constraint_met) {
        values.buttontext = "NEXT ROOM";
        trial.room_a_item4_description.insertstimulusframe(text.key_message,1);
    };
]
/ ontrialend = [
    trial.room_a_item4_description.resetstimulusframes();
]
/ stimulusframes = [1=clearscreen, room_a_item4_description, return]
/ inputdevice = mouse
/ validresponse = (return)
/ branch = [
    if (!values.constraint_met) {
        trial.room_a;
    };
]
</trial>

<text room_a_description>
/ items = ("Description of Room A")
/ erase = false
/ position = (50%, 15%)
</text>

<text room_a_item1>
/ items = ("Item 1")
/ erase = false
/ position = (20%, 50%)
</text>

<text room_a_item2>
/ items = ("Item 2")
/ erase = false
/ position = (40%, 50%)
</text>

<text room_a_item3>
/ items = ("Item 3")
/ erase = false
/ position = (60%, 50%)
</text>

<text room_a_item4>
/ items = ("Item 4")
/ erase = false
/ position = (80%, 50%)
</text>

<text room_a_item1_description>
/ items = ("Description of item 1")
/ erase = false
/ position = (50%, 40%)
/ size = (50%, 20%)
</text>

<text room_a_item2_description>
/ items = ("Description of item 2")
/ erase = false
/ position = (50%, 40%)
</text>

<text room_a_item3_description>
/ items = ("Description of item 3")
/ erase = false
/ position = (50%, 40%)
/ size = (50%, 20%)
</text>

<text room_a_item4_description>
/ items = ("Description of item 4")
/ erase = false
/ position = (50%, 40%)
/ size = (50%, 20%)
</text>

<text key_message>
/ items = ("You've found the key and can advance to the next room.")
/ position = (50%, 40%)
/ size = (50%, 20%)
</text>

<button return>
/ caption = "<%values.buttontext%>"
/ size = (10%, 5%)
/ position = (50%, 60%)
</button>

RE: conditional trajectories

troyh — Sat, 19 Sep 2020 01:19:41 GMT

+x[quote]

[b]Dave - 9/19/2020[/b]
+x[quote]

[b]troyh - 9/18/2020[/b]
Hello!

Is it possible to program, e.g., the following:

Let's say I have 4 "room descriptions" that are presented with 2-4 items in each room. You can click on one item at a time, which will lead to its own description, but then returns to the room description. To go from room to room, there are "keys" that get presented following 1 of 4 different contingencies: i) all items have to be clicked on, ii) the same item has to be clicked on twice, iii) the same item has to be clicked on twice in a row, and iv) after the 6th click.
Essentially, I'm envisioning something like,
<trial room1>
/stimulusframes = [ room1description, item1, item2, item3, item4, item1description, item2description, item3description, item4description ]
/branch = [ (if trial.room1.response == "item1"){ return item1description; }

And, with each item description, I have a return button that returns to the room description, unless the contingency for that room is met. The problems I'm running into are that I have two separate trials for each "item" (which is really a link to its description) and "item description", when everything has to be randomized. By everything I mean which contingency is applied to which room and the overall order of the rooms need to be randomized.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[/quote]

> The problems I'm running into are that I have two separate trials for each "item"

Why?

Also, it's not a problem to apply different contingencies to different "rooms" at random, not sure what you're struggling with in that regard.
[/quote]

Sorry, I wasn't really clear at all and am new to all this. I guess what I'm trying to figure out is how--if each 'item description' has a return button to return to the room description--to randomly incorporate a new stimulus instead of that return button when the room-specific contingency is met.

RE: conditional trajectories

Dave — Sat, 19 Sep 2020 01:02:00 GMT

+x[quote]

[b]troyh - 9/18/2020[/b]
Hello!

Is it possible to program, e.g., the following:

Let's say I have 4 "room descriptions" that are presented with 2-4 items in each room. You can click on one item at a time, which will lead to its own description, but then returns to the room description. To go from room to room, there are "keys" that get presented following 1 of 4 different contingencies: i) all items have to be clicked on, ii) the same item has to be clicked on twice, iii) the same item has to be clicked on twice in a row, and iv) after the 6th click.
Essentially, I'm envisioning something like,
<trial room1>
/stimulusframes = [ room1description, item1, item2, item3, item4, item1description, item2description, item3description, item4description ]
/branch = [ (if trial.room1.response == "item1"){ return item1description; }

And, with each item description, I have a return button that returns to the room description, unless the contingency for that room is met. The problems I'm running into are that I have two separate trials for each "item" (which is really a link to its description) and "item description", when everything has to be randomized. By everything I mean which contingency is applied to which room and the overall order of the rooms need to be randomized.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[/quote]

> The problems I'm running into are that I have two separate trials for each "item"

Why?

Also, it's not a problem to apply different contingencies to different "rooms" at random, not sure what you're struggling with in that regard.