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Values addition crashes script

n.lee.20 — Tue, 16 Feb 2021 14:25:50 GMT

Hi

When I have added in a new value it leads to the script crashing and closes down the whole of the Inquisit desktop programme so I think I may be doing something wrong. I am also not sure if values are the best way to do it. In my task 3 shapes are randomly assigned to 3 values (£9, £5, £1) and participants make judgments based on shape and label presentations. I want to program the feedback so that it is linked to the randomly selected stimuli (e.g., incorrect you lose £9), but due to the random selection of stimuli and tag I am having some difficulties.

I have tried to do this as follows. The random selection of picture and tag works, but when I add values.icfeedback... it crashes.

<block block_info>
/ onblockend = [
if (list.nsat_tag.item(1) == "£9") {values.pic1con = "£9"; values.tag1name = "£9"; values.icfeedback1 = "incorrect - you lose 9 tokens"};
if (list.nsat_tag.item(2) == "£9") {values.pic2con = "£9"; values.tag2name = "£9"; values.icfeedback2 = "incorrect - you lose 9 tokens"};
if (list.nsat_tag.item(3) == "£9") {values.pic3con = "£9"; values.tag3name = "£9"; values.icfeedback3 = "incorrect - you lose 9 tokens"};
if (list.nsat_tag.item(1) == "£5") {values.pic1con = "£5"; values.tag1name = "£5"; values.icfeedback1 = "incorrect - you lose 5 tokens"};
if (list.nsat_tag.item(2) == "£5") {values.pic2con = "£5"; values.tag2name = "£5"; values.icfeedback2 = "incorrect - you lose 5 tokens"};
if (list.nsat_tag.item(3) == "£5") {values.pic3con = "£5"; values.tag3name = "£5"; values.icfeedback3 = "incorrect - you lose 5 tokens"};
if (list.nsat_tag.item(1) == "£1") {values.pic1con = "£1"; values.tag1name = "£1"; values.icfeedback1 = "incorrect - you lose 1 token"};
if (list.nsat_tag.item(2) == "£1") {values.pic2con = "£1"; values.tag2name = "£1"; values.icfeedback2 = "incorrect - you lose 1 token"};
if (list.nsat_tag.item(3) == "£1") {values.pic3con = "£1"; values.tag3name = "£1"; values.icfeedback3 = "incorrect - you lose 1 token"};]
</block>

<picture picture_Pic>
/items = ("1.tif", "2.tif", "3.tif")
/select = noreplace
/position = (50%, 40%)
</picture>

<list sat_pic>
/items = ("1.tif", "2.tif", "3.tif")
/ replace = false
</list>

<list nsat_pic>
/items = ("1.tif", "2.tif", "3.tif")
</list>

## images
<picture Pic1>
/items = ("<% list.nsat_pic.item(1) %>")
/position = (50%, 35%)
</picture>

<picture Pic2>
/items = ("<% list.nsat_pic.item(2) %>")
/ position = (50%, 35%)
</picture>

<picture Pic3>
/items = ("<% list.nsat_pic.item(3) %>")
/ position = (50%, 35%)
</picture>

========================
<list sat_tag>
/items = ("£9", "£5", "£1")
/replace = false
</list>

<list nsat_tag>
</list>

## tags
<text Tag1>
/ items=("<% list.nsat_tag.item(1) %>")
/ position = (50%, 65%)
/ fontstyle = ("Arial Black", 5%)
</text>

<text Tag2>
/ items = ("<% list.nsat_tag.item(2) %>")
/ position = (50%, 65%)
/ fontstyle = ("Arial Black", 5%)
</text>

<text Tag3>
/ items = ("<% list.nsat_tag.item(3) %>")
/ position = (50%, 65%)
/ fontstyle = ("Arial Black", 5%)
</text>

=======================
<text feedback_C>
/ items = ("correct")
/ position = (50%, 50%)
/ fontstyle = ("Arial Black", 32pt, true, false, false, false, 5, 1)
</text>

<text feedback_IC9>
/ items = ("incorrect - you lose 9 tokens")
/ position = (50%, 50%)
/ fontstyle = ("Arial Black", 32pt, true, false, false, false, 5, 1)
</text>

<text feedback_IC5>
/ items = ("incorrect - you lose 5 tokens")
/ position = (50%, 50%)
/ fontstyle = ("Arial Black", 32pt, true, false, false, false, 5, 1)
</text>

<text feedback_IC1>
/ items = ("incorrect - you lose 1 token")
/ position = (50%, 50%)
/ fontstyle = ("Arial Black", 32pt, true, false, false, false, 5, 1)
</text>

<text feedback_NR>
/ items = ("too slow")
/ position = (50%, 50%)
/ fontstyle = ("Arial Black", 32pt, true, false, false, false, 5, 1)
</text>

=======
Example trial
<trial Con1>
/ ontrialbegin = [ values.Con_match = "match"; values.Con_shape = values.pic1con;
values.Stim_Content =picture.Pic1.currentitem; values.Con_label = text.Tag1.currentitem;
values.cres=values.mRes; values.wres = values.nRes; values.TrialID += 1;]
/ stimulustimes = [0=fixation; 500=Pic1, Tag1;650=clearscreen]
/ correctresponse = (values.cres)
/ validresponse = (values.nRes, values.mRes)
/ beginresponsetime = 500
/ responseinterrupt = immediate
/ response = timeout(1500)
/ posttrialpause = parameters.iti
/ responsemessage = (values.cres, feedback_C, 500)
/ responsemessage = (values.wres, values.icfeedback1, 500)
/ responsemessage = ("", feedback_NR, 500)
</trial>

Many thanks in advance for any help as I am not sure what is causing the issue so I don't therefore know where to look to solve it.

Naomi

RE: Values addition crashes script

n.lee.20 — Tue, 16 Feb 2021 14:25:50 GMT

Thank you so much, that works perfectly!

RE: Values addition crashes script

Dave — Tue, 16 Feb 2021 14:11:07 GMT

+x[quote]

[b]n.lee.20 - 2/16/2021[/b]
Hi Dave

Thank you very much for finding that error. Do you have any suggestions as to how I can get the correct error message for each trial when the stimuli are randomly selected, but the error message must be linked to that stimuli?

E.g., If stimuli 2 is selected, error message 2 is shown?

Many thanks for your ongoing help!
[/quote]

You can simply do

<trial Con1>
/ ontrialbegin = [ values.Con_match = "match"; values.Con_shape = values.pic1con;
values.Stim_Content =picture.Pic1.currentitem; values.Con_label = text.Tag1.currentitem;
values.cres=values.mRes; values.wres = values.nRes; values.TrialID += 1;]
/ stimulustimes = [0=fixation; 500=Pic1, Tag1;650=clearscreen]
/ correctresponse = (values.cres)
/ validresponse = (values.nRes, values.mRes)
/ beginresponsetime = 500
/ responseinterrupt = immediate
/ response = timeout(1500)
/ posttrialpause = parameters.iti
/ responsemessage = (values.cres, feedback_C, 500)
/ responsemessage = (values.wres, text.icfeedback1, 500)
/ responsemessage = ("", feedback_NR, 500)
</trial>

with

<text icfeedback1>
/ items = ("<%values.icfeedback1%>")
</text>

and so forth.

RE: Values addition crashes script

n.lee.20 — Tue, 16 Feb 2021 13:29:32 GMT

Hi Dave

Thank you very much for finding that error. Do you have any suggestions as to how I can get the correct error message for each trial when the stimuli are randomly selected, but the error message must be linked to that stimuli?

E.g., If stimuli 2 is selected, error message 2 is shown?

Many thanks for your ongoing help!

RE: Values addition crashes script

Dave — Tue, 16 Feb 2021 13:24:36 GMT

+x[quote]

[b]n.lee.20 - 2/16/2021[/b]

Hi Dave

Thank you for getting back to me so quickly, sorry for not attaching before. Please find attached now.

Many thanks
[/quote]

The problem with your script are the following constructions:

/ errormessage = true(values.icfeedback1, 500)

/ responsemessage = (values.wres, values.icfeedback1, 500)

A value is not a stimulus element, so it cannot be displayed as a response stimulus of any kind. You can display <text>, <picture>, etc. as response, correct, or error messages.

RE: Values addition crashes script

n.lee.20 — Tue, 16 Feb 2021 12:35:13 GMT

Hi Dave

Thank you for getting back to me so quickly, sorry for not attaching before. Please find attached now.

Many thanks

RE: Values addition crashes script

Dave — Tue, 16 Feb 2021 12:20:24 GMT

+x[quote]

[b]n.lee.20 - 2/16/2021[/b]
Hi

When I have added in a new value it leads to the script crashing and closes down the whole of the Inquisit desktop programme so I think I may be doing something wrong. I am also not sure if values are the best way to do it. In my task 3 shapes are randomly assigned to 3 values (£9, £5, £1) and participants make judgments based on shape and label presentations. I want to program the feedback so that it is linked to the randomly selected stimuli (e.g., incorrect you lose £9), but due to the random selection of stimuli and tag I am having some difficulties.

I have tried to do this as follows. The random selection of picture and tag works, but when I add values.icfeedback... it crashes.

<block block_info>
/ onblockend = [
if (list.nsat_tag.item(1) == "£9") {values.pic1con = "£9"; values.tag1name = "£9"; values.icfeedback1 = "incorrect - you lose 9 tokens"};
if (list.nsat_tag.item(2) == "£9") {values.pic2con = "£9"; values.tag2name = "£9"; values.icfeedback2 = "incorrect - you lose 9 tokens"};
if (list.nsat_tag.item(3) == "£9") {values.pic3con = "£9"; values.tag3name = "£9"; values.icfeedback3 = "incorrect - you lose 9 tokens"};
if (list.nsat_tag.item(1) == "£5") {values.pic1con = "£5"; values.tag1name = "£5"; values.icfeedback1 = "incorrect - you lose 5 tokens"};
if (list.nsat_tag.item(2) == "£5") {values.pic2con = "£5"; values.tag2name = "£5"; values.icfeedback2 = "incorrect - you lose 5 tokens"};
if (list.nsat_tag.item(3) == "£5") {values.pic3con = "£5"; values.tag3name = "£5"; values.icfeedback3 = "incorrect - you lose 5 tokens"};
if (list.nsat_tag.item(1) == "£1") {values.pic1con = "£1"; values.tag1name = "£1"; values.icfeedback1 = "incorrect - you lose 1 token"};
if (list.nsat_tag.item(2) == "£1") {values.pic2con = "£1"; values.tag2name = "£1"; values.icfeedback2 = "incorrect - you lose 1 token"};
if (list.nsat_tag.item(3) == "£1") {values.pic3con = "£1"; values.tag3name = "£1"; values.icfeedback3 = "incorrect - you lose 1 token"};]
</block>

<picture picture_Pic>
/items = ("1.tif", "2.tif", "3.tif")
/select = noreplace
/position = (50%, 40%)
</picture>

<list sat_pic>
/items = ("1.tif", "2.tif", "3.tif")
/ replace = false
</list>

<list nsat_pic>
/items = ("1.tif", "2.tif", "3.tif")
</list>

## images
<picture Pic1>
/items = ("<% list.nsat_pic.item(1) %>")
/position = (50%, 35%)
</picture>

<picture Pic2>
/items = ("<% list.nsat_pic.item(2) %>")
/ position = (50%, 35%)
</picture>

<picture Pic3>
/items = ("<% list.nsat_pic.item(3) %>")
/ position = (50%, 35%)
</picture>

========================
<list sat_tag>
/items = ("£9", "£5", "£1")
/replace = false
</list>

<list nsat_tag>
</list>

## tags
<text Tag1>
/ items=("<% list.nsat_tag.item(1) %>")
/ position = (50%, 65%)
/ fontstyle = ("Arial Black", 5%)
</text>

<text Tag2>
/ items = ("<% list.nsat_tag.item(2) %>")
/ position = (50%, 65%)
/ fontstyle = ("Arial Black", 5%)
</text>

<text Tag3>
/ items = ("<% list.nsat_tag.item(3) %>")
/ position = (50%, 65%)
/ fontstyle = ("Arial Black", 5%)
</text>

=======================
<text feedback_C>
/ items = ("correct")
/ position = (50%, 50%)
/ fontstyle = ("Arial Black", 32pt, true, false, false, false, 5, 1)
</text>

<text feedback_IC9>
/ items = ("incorrect - you lose 9 tokens")
/ position = (50%, 50%)
/ fontstyle = ("Arial Black", 32pt, true, false, false, false, 5, 1)
</text>

<text feedback_IC5>
/ items = ("incorrect - you lose 5 tokens")
/ position = (50%, 50%)
/ fontstyle = ("Arial Black", 32pt, true, false, false, false, 5, 1)
</text>

<text feedback_IC1>
/ items = ("incorrect - you lose 1 token")
/ position = (50%, 50%)
/ fontstyle = ("Arial Black", 32pt, true, false, false, false, 5, 1)
</text>

<text feedback_NR>
/ items = ("too slow")
/ position = (50%, 50%)
/ fontstyle = ("Arial Black", 32pt, true, false, false, false, 5, 1)
</text>

=======
Example trial
<trial Con1>
/ ontrialbegin = [ values.Con_match = "match"; values.Con_shape = values.pic1con;
values.Stim_Content =picture.Pic1.currentitem; values.Con_label = text.Tag1.currentitem;
values.cres=values.mRes; values.wres = values.nRes; values.TrialID += 1;]
/ stimulustimes = [0=fixation; 500=Pic1, Tag1;650=clearscreen]
/ correctresponse = (values.cres)
/ validresponse = (values.nRes, values.mRes)
/ beginresponsetime = 500
/ responseinterrupt = immediate
/ response = timeout(1500)
/ posttrialpause = parameters.iti
/ responsemessage = (values.cres, feedback_C, 500)
/ responsemessage = (values.wres, values.icfeedback1, 500)
/ responsemessage = ("", feedback_NR, 500)
</trial>

Many thanks in advance for any help as I am not sure what is causing the issue so I don't therefore know where to look to solve it.

Naomi
[/quote]

Please provide the full script and all files it requires to run. I cannot look into a crash if I don't have something I can actually execute.