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RE: Problem with randomized subjectid numbers

Dave — Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:18:20 GMT

Hmm, weird. Maybe several subjects have taken the study from the same PC without refreshing the launch page -- this used to be a potential issue a while back, if I remember correctly. However, nowadays the launch page should prevent this from happening, I think. Anyway, given the huge variety in browsers, ad- and scriptblockers people are running in the wild, there might be a few combinations out there throwing things off. Back on topic, though: I'd prepend time and / or date information to the subject id in order to make each one unique (easily done in SPSS via concat()) -- in case of just one between-subjects condition with two levels (odd vs. even) this will keep the condition assignment encoded in the subject id intact while getting rid of the duplicate ids. E.g. subject 3 run on 10-10-2009 at 13:00 might become 1010200913003 while subject 3 run on 10-15-2009 at 08:32 might become 1015200908323, etc.

Hope this helps,

~Dave

RE: Problem with randomized subjectid numbers

barsad — Wed, 16 Jun 2010 15:57:05 GMT

Hi Dave --

Thanks for the link... yes, it was hosted on the millisecond.com server, so it's still a mystery why there would be identical subject IDs. I'm less worried about the even-odd distribution than the merging of datasets (unfortunately I get four different output files from my survey, I haven't figured out how to get just one data file). I merge by comparing subject IDs, so they have to be unique.

Josh

RE: Problem with randomized subjectid numbers

Dave — Wed, 16 Jun 2010 15:09:39 GMT

Was the script hosted at millisecond.com or at your own server? This makes a difference and is explained at length in this help topic: http://www.millisecond.com/support/docs/v3/html/articles/websubjectnumbers.htm. Possibly relevant quote:

"Subject number assignment for scripts hosted on other servers

[...]

In the source code for the page is a javascript method called "GetSubjectNumber" that is responsible for generating the subject number. For random generation, the method looks like this:

Figure 2.

function GetSubjectNumber() 
{ 
   return (Math.floor(Math.random() * 1000000000)); 
} 

[...]

Note that we are selecting numbers with replacement, so it is theoretically possible that two participants might be assigned the 
same subject number. However, the chances are slim indeed, and if it does happen, you can use the time of the session as 
logged in the "date" and "time" data columns to distinguish the subjects' data."

Also note that the mere fact that some subjects have the same number does not necessarily skew the distribution of even and odd numbers.

Hope this helps,
~Dave

Problem with randomized subjectid numbers

barsad — Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:57:38 GMT

Hello --

I am using the standard randomized Subject ID script to assign subject numbers for a Web experiment, which is the following:

function GetSubjectNumber()
{
    var snum = Math.floor(Math.random() * 1000000000);
	return snum.toString();
}

But for some reason several subjects (about 10) were given the same subject number when taking the survey. I know this isn't supposed to happen when it's randomly assigning numbers between 1 and 1000000000, but it is. Has anyone had this bug, and how might I correct it?
I need to have an even number of evenly-numbered and odd-numbered subject IDs.

Thanks,
Josh