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Dave - 7/21/2021

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M Gerathy - 7/21/2021

Thank you very much, David. The progress bar works perfectly. I really appreciate it.

However, the script seems to have developed a bug. For a few of the trial presentations the script is sometimes (not all times) presenting the sentences with missing words.

For example, there are two stimulus sentences that are similar (Probes 19 and 23):
"It is all right to coerce one's partner into having sex when they are not willing by forcing them"
"It is all right to coerce one's partner into having sex when they are not willing by giving the other alcohol or drugs"

Monkey runs of the script present these sentences with the appropriate probes (i.e. 3 times per block, 1 for each response probe). However, the monkley run will also present the sentence:
"It is all right to coerce one's partner into having sex when they are not" as a trial i.e. 3 times per block, 1 for each response probe).

I can find no reason for this in this script. The same is true for 2-3 other sentences in the stimulus list. And its always the same sentences so I dont think its my laptop's processing power.

Do you have any advice as to why this may be happening?

Thank you very much, David.

The progress bar has no effect whatsoever on the rest (trial selection, etc.), so the bug is in your original.

> And its always the same sentences

Then check the relevant trials. For example, you'll easily spot the mistakes here:

// 15 words trial but displays 23 words stimuli
<trial 15words_true>
/ inputdevice = keyboard
/ validresponse = ("a", "l")
/ correctresponse = ("a")
/ stimulustimes = [0=cross; 500=blank, 23words_1; 790=blank, 23words_2;
                    1080=blank, 23words_3; 1370=blank, 23words_4;
                    1660=blank, 23words_5; 1950=blank, 23words_6;
                    2240=blank, 23words_7; 2530=blank, 23words_8;
                    2820=blank, 23words_9; 3110=blank, 23words_10;
                    3400=blank, 23words_11; 3690=blank, 23words_12;
                    3980=blank, 23words_13; 4270=blank, 23words_14;
                    4560=blank, 23words_15; 5060=blank; 5560 = true_probe]
/ responsetime = 5560
/ responsemessage = ("l", wrong, 2000)
/ branch = [trial.iti]
</trial>

// 15 words trial but displays 23 words stimuli
<trial 15words_false>
/ inputdevice = keyboard
/ validresponse = ("a", "l")
/ correctresponse = ("l")
/ stimulustimes = [0=cross; 500=blank, 23words_1; 790=blank, 23words_2;
                    1080=blank, 23words_3; 1370=blank, 23words_4;
                    1660=blank, 23words_5; 1950=blank, 23words_6;
                    2240=blank, 23words_7; 2530=blank, 23words_8;
                    2820=blank, 23words_9; 3110=blank, 23words_10;
                    3400=blank, 23words_11; 3690=blank, 23words_12;
                    3980=blank, 23words_13; 4270=blank, 23words_14;
                    4560=blank, 23words_15; 5060=blank; 5560 = false_probe]
/ responsetime = 5560
/ responsemessage = ("a", wrong, 2000)
/ branch = [trial.iti]
</trial>

<trial 15words_catch>
/ inputdevice = keyboard
/ validresponse = ("a", "l")
/ correctresponse = ("a")
/ stimulustimes = [0=cross; 500=blank, 23words_1; 790=blank, 23words_2;
                    1080=blank, 23words_3; 1370=blank, 23words_4;
                    1660=blank, 23words_5; 1950=blank, 23words_6;
                    2240=blank, 23words_7; 2530=blank, 23words_8;
                    2820=blank, 23words_9; 3110=blank, 23words_10;
                    3400=blank, 23words_11; 3690=blank, 23words_12;
                    3980=blank, 23words_13; 4270=blank, 23words_14;
                    4560=blank, 23words_15; 5060=blank; 5560 = catch]
/ responsetime = 5560
/ branch = [trial.iti]
</trial>

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M Gerathy - 7/25/2021

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Dave - 7/21/2021

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M Gerathy - 7/21/2021

Thank you very much, David. The progress bar works perfectly. I really appreciate it.

However, the script seems to have developed a bug. For a few of the trial presentations the script is sometimes (not all times) presenting the sentences with missing words.

For example, there are two stimulus sentences that are similar (Probes 19 and 23):
"It is all right to coerce one's partner into having sex when they are not willing by forcing them"
"It is all right to coerce one's partner into having sex when they are not willing by giving the other alcohol or drugs"

Monkey runs of the script present these sentences with the appropriate probes (i.e. 3 times per block, 1 for each response probe). However, the monkley run will also present the sentence:
"It is all right to coerce one's partner into having sex when they are not" as a trial i.e. 3 times per block, 1 for each response probe).

I can find no reason for this in this script. The same is true for 2-3 other sentences in the stimulus list. And its always the same sentences so I dont think its my laptop's processing power.

Do you have any advice as to why this may be happening?

Thank you very much, David.

The progress bar has no effect whatsoever on the rest (trial selection, etc.), so the bug is in your original.

> And its always the same sentences

Then check the relevant trials. For example, you'll easily spot the mistakes here:

// 15 words trial but displays 23 words stimuli
<trial 15words_true>
/ inputdevice = keyboard
/ validresponse = ("a", "l")
/ correctresponse = ("a")
/ stimulustimes = [0=cross; 500=blank, 23words_1; 790=blank, 23words_2;
                    1080=blank, 23words_3; 1370=blank, 23words_4;
                    1660=blank, 23words_5; 1950=blank, 23words_6;
                    2240=blank, 23words_7; 2530=blank, 23words_8;
                    2820=blank, 23words_9; 3110=blank, 23words_10;
                    3400=blank, 23words_11; 3690=blank, 23words_12;
                    3980=blank, 23words_13; 4270=blank, 23words_14;
                    4560=blank, 23words_15; 5060=blank; 5560 = true_probe]
/ responsetime = 5560
/ responsemessage = ("l", wrong, 2000)
/ branch = [trial.iti]
</trial>

// 15 words trial but displays 23 words stimuli
<trial 15words_false>
/ inputdevice = keyboard
/ validresponse = ("a", "l")
/ correctresponse = ("l")
/ stimulustimes = [0=cross; 500=blank, 23words_1; 790=blank, 23words_2;
                    1080=blank, 23words_3; 1370=blank, 23words_4;
                    1660=blank, 23words_5; 1950=blank, 23words_6;
                    2240=blank, 23words_7; 2530=blank, 23words_8;
                    2820=blank, 23words_9; 3110=blank, 23words_10;
                    3400=blank, 23words_11; 3690=blank, 23words_12;
                    3980=blank, 23words_13; 4270=blank, 23words_14;
                    4560=blank, 23words_15; 5060=blank; 5560 = false_probe]
/ responsetime = 5560
/ responsemessage = ("a", wrong, 2000)
/ branch = [trial.iti]
</trial>

<trial 15words_catch>
/ inputdevice = keyboard
/ validresponse = ("a", "l")
/ correctresponse = ("a")
/ stimulustimes = [0=cross; 500=blank, 23words_1; 790=blank, 23words_2;
                    1080=blank, 23words_3; 1370=blank, 23words_4;
                    1660=blank, 23words_5; 1950=blank, 23words_6;
                    2240=blank, 23words_7; 2530=blank, 23words_8;
                    2820=blank, 23words_9; 3110=blank, 23words_10;
                    3400=blank, 23words_11; 3690=blank, 23words_12;
                    3980=blank, 23words_13; 4270=blank, 23words_14;
                    4560=blank, 23words_15; 5060=blank; 5560 = catch]
/ responsetime = 5560
/ branch = [trial.iti]
</trial>

Thank you very much. David. I really appreciate it.

So obvious when you point it out. I guess I'm too close to it.

This script is so close to being done now. Thanks in large part to your help. Is it possible to ask you one more question? I am having a bug with the distribution of teh <items> for the <list> within each <block>.

In total, I have 39 items that I wish to appear as individual trials 3 times within each of the 3 PEP experimental blocks (i.e. 9 times over the total experiment). That is, each item should appear once with each of the response prompts (i.e. true, false, catch) each block, with no replacement within the blocks. However, in the data I am noting that 1) some items are being replaced within a block and 2) some items are being selected more or less than the desired number of times.

I believe I have programmed the presentation probabilities for the items and lists correctly, as well as having placed '/response = false' commands in the correct places.

Any ideas where I am going wrong, David? Or anyone else?

I have attached an updated script as I have changed how the items are labelled to aid in data extraction. Thank you for any help you can offer.

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M Gerathy - 7/25/2021

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M Gerathy - 7/25/2021

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Dave - 7/21/2021

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M Gerathy - 7/21/2021

Thank you very much, David. The progress bar works perfectly. I really appreciate it.

However, the script seems to have developed a bug. For a few of the trial presentations the script is sometimes (not all times) presenting the sentences with missing words.

For example, there are two stimulus sentences that are similar (Probes 19 and 23):
"It is all right to coerce one's partner into having sex when they are not willing by forcing them"
"It is all right to coerce one's partner into having sex when they are not willing by giving the other alcohol or drugs"

Monkey runs of the script present these sentences with the appropriate probes (i.e. 3 times per block, 1 for each response probe). However, the monkley run will also present the sentence:
"It is all right to coerce one's partner into having sex when they are not" as a trial i.e. 3 times per block, 1 for each response probe).

I can find no reason for this in this script. The same is true for 2-3 other sentences in the stimulus list. And its always the same sentences so I dont think its my laptop's processing power.

Do you have any advice as to why this may be happening?

Thank you very much, David.

The progress bar has no effect whatsoever on the rest (trial selection, etc.), so the bug is in your original.

> And its always the same sentences

Then check the relevant trials. For example, you'll easily spot the mistakes here:

// 15 words trial but displays 23 words stimuli
<trial 15words_true>
/ inputdevice = keyboard
/ validresponse = ("a", "l")
/ correctresponse = ("a")
/ stimulustimes = [0=cross; 500=blank, 23words_1; 790=blank, 23words_2;
                    1080=blank, 23words_3; 1370=blank, 23words_4;
                    1660=blank, 23words_5; 1950=blank, 23words_6;
                    2240=blank, 23words_7; 2530=blank, 23words_8;
                    2820=blank, 23words_9; 3110=blank, 23words_10;
                    3400=blank, 23words_11; 3690=blank, 23words_12;
                    3980=blank, 23words_13; 4270=blank, 23words_14;
                    4560=blank, 23words_15; 5060=blank; 5560 = true_probe]
/ responsetime = 5560
/ responsemessage = ("l", wrong, 2000)
/ branch = [trial.iti]
</trial>

// 15 words trial but displays 23 words stimuli
<trial 15words_false>
/ inputdevice = keyboard
/ validresponse = ("a", "l")
/ correctresponse = ("l")
/ stimulustimes = [0=cross; 500=blank, 23words_1; 790=blank, 23words_2;
                    1080=blank, 23words_3; 1370=blank, 23words_4;
                    1660=blank, 23words_5; 1950=blank, 23words_6;
                    2240=blank, 23words_7; 2530=blank, 23words_8;
                    2820=blank, 23words_9; 3110=blank, 23words_10;
                    3400=blank, 23words_11; 3690=blank, 23words_12;
                    3980=blank, 23words_13; 4270=blank, 23words_14;
                    4560=blank, 23words_15; 5060=blank; 5560 = false_probe]
/ responsetime = 5560
/ responsemessage = ("a", wrong, 2000)
/ branch = [trial.iti]
</trial>

<trial 15words_catch>
/ inputdevice = keyboard
/ validresponse = ("a", "l")
/ correctresponse = ("a")
/ stimulustimes = [0=cross; 500=blank, 23words_1; 790=blank, 23words_2;
                    1080=blank, 23words_3; 1370=blank, 23words_4;
                    1660=blank, 23words_5; 1950=blank, 23words_6;
                    2240=blank, 23words_7; 2530=blank, 23words_8;
                    2820=blank, 23words_9; 3110=blank, 23words_10;
                    3400=blank, 23words_11; 3690=blank, 23words_12;
                    3980=blank, 23words_13; 4270=blank, 23words_14;
                    4560=blank, 23words_15; 5060=blank; 5560 = catch]
/ responsetime = 5560
/ branch = [trial.iti]
</trial>

Thank you very much. David. I really appreciate it.

So obvious when you point it out. I guess I'm too close to it.

This script is so close to being done now. Thanks in large part to your help. Is it possible to ask you one more question? I am having a bug with the distribution of teh <items> for the <list> within each <block>.

In total, I have 39 items that I wish to appear as individual trials 3 times within each of the 3 PEP experimental blocks (i.e. 9 times over the total experiment). That is, each item should appear once with each of the response prompts (i.e. true, false, catch) each block, with no replacement within the blocks. However, in the data I am noting that 1) some items are being replaced within a block and 2) some items are being selected more or less than the desired number of times.

I believe I have programmed the presentation probabilities for the items and lists correctly, as well as having placed '/response = false' commands in the correct places.

Any ideas where I am going wrong, David? Or anyone else?

I have attached an updated script as I have changed how the items are labelled to aid in data extraction. Thank you for any help you can offer.

*not '/ response = false', I have programmed '/ replace = false'.

Apologies.

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Dave - 7/26/2021

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M Gerathy - 7/25/2021

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M Gerathy - 7/25/2021

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Dave - 7/21/2021

+x

 

M Gerathy - 7/21/2021

Thank you very much, David. The progress bar works perfectly. I really appreciate it.

However, the script seems to have developed a bug. For a few of the trial presentations the script is sometimes (not all times) presenting the sentences with missing words.

For example, there are two stimulus sentences that are similar (Probes 19 and 23):
"It is all right to coerce one's partner into having sex when they are not willing by forcing them"
"It is all right to coerce one's partner into having sex when they are not willing by giving the other alcohol or drugs"

Monkey runs of the script present these sentences with the appropriate probes (i.e. 3 times per block, 1 for each response probe). However, the monkley run will also present the sentence:
"It is all right to coerce one's partner into having sex when they are not" as a trial i.e. 3 times per block, 1 for each response probe).

I can find no reason for this in this script. The same is true for 2-3 other sentences in the stimulus list. And its always the same sentences so I dont think its my laptop's processing power.

Do you have any advice as to why this may be happening?

Thank you very much, David.

The progress bar has no effect whatsoever on the rest (trial selection, etc.), so the bug is in your original.

> And its always the same sentences

Then check the relevant trials. For example, you'll easily spot the mistakes here:

// 15 words trial but displays 23 words stimuli
<trial 15words_true>
/ inputdevice = keyboard
/ validresponse = ("a", "l")
/ correctresponse = ("a")
/ stimulustimes = [0=cross; 500=blank, 23words_1; 790=blank, 23words_2;
                    1080=blank, 23words_3; 1370=blank, 23words_4;
                    1660=blank, 23words_5; 1950=blank, 23words_6;
                    2240=blank, 23words_7; 2530=blank, 23words_8;
                    2820=blank, 23words_9; 3110=blank, 23words_10;
                    3400=blank, 23words_11; 3690=blank, 23words_12;
                    3980=blank, 23words_13; 4270=blank, 23words_14;
                    4560=blank, 23words_15; 5060=blank; 5560 = true_probe]
/ responsetime = 5560
/ responsemessage = ("l", wrong, 2000)
/ branch = [trial.iti]
</trial>

// 15 words trial but displays 23 words stimuli
<trial 15words_false>
/ inputdevice = keyboard
/ validresponse = ("a", "l")
/ correctresponse = ("l")
/ stimulustimes = [0=cross; 500=blank, 23words_1; 790=blank, 23words_2;
                    1080=blank, 23words_3; 1370=blank, 23words_4;
                    1660=blank, 23words_5; 1950=blank, 23words_6;
                    2240=blank, 23words_7; 2530=blank, 23words_8;
                    2820=blank, 23words_9; 3110=blank, 23words_10;
                    3400=blank, 23words_11; 3690=blank, 23words_12;
                    3980=blank, 23words_13; 4270=blank, 23words_14;
                    4560=blank, 23words_15; 5060=blank; 5560 = false_probe]
/ responsetime = 5560
/ responsemessage = ("a", wrong, 2000)
/ branch = [trial.iti]
</trial>

<trial 15words_catch>
/ inputdevice = keyboard
/ validresponse = ("a", "l")
/ correctresponse = ("a")
/ stimulustimes = [0=cross; 500=blank, 23words_1; 790=blank, 23words_2;
                    1080=blank, 23words_3; 1370=blank, 23words_4;
                    1660=blank, 23words_5; 1950=blank, 23words_6;
                    2240=blank, 23words_7; 2530=blank, 23words_8;
                    2820=blank, 23words_9; 3110=blank, 23words_10;
                    3400=blank, 23words_11; 3690=blank, 23words_12;
                    3980=blank, 23words_13; 4270=blank, 23words_14;
                    4560=blank, 23words_15; 5060=blank; 5560 = catch]
/ responsetime = 5560
/ branch = [trial.iti]
</trial>

Thank you very much. David. I really appreciate it.

So obvious when you point it out. I guess I'm too close to it.

This script is so close to being done now. Thanks in large part to your help. Is it possible to ask you one more question? I am having a bug with the distribution of teh <items> for the <list> within each <block>.

In total, I have 39 items that I wish to appear as individual trials 3 times within each of the 3 PEP experimental blocks (i.e. 9 times over the total experiment). That is, each item should appear once with each of the response prompts (i.e. true, false, catch) each block, with no replacement within the blocks. However, in the data I am noting that 1) some items are being replaced within a block and 2) some items are being selected more or less than the desired number of times.

I believe I have programmed the presentation probabilities for the items and lists correctly, as well as having placed '/response = false' commands in the correct places.

Any ideas where I am going wrong, David? Or anyone else?

I have attached an updated script as I have changed how the items are labelled to aid in data extraction. Thank you for any help you can offer.

*not '/ response = false', I have programmed '/ replace = false'.

Apologies.

Can you explain your math here and how that's supposed to correspond to

> In total, I have 39 items that I wish to appear as individual trials 3 times within each of the 3 PEP experimental blocks (i.e. 9 times over the total experiment).
> That is, each item should appear once with each of the response prompts (i.e. true, false, catch) each block, with no replacement within the blocks.

? Because I don't get it.

<list pep_1>
/ items = (list.true_probes.nextvalue,
         list.false_probes.nextvalue,
         list.catch.nextvalue)
/ itemprobabilities = (.3333333333333333333333, .3333333333333333333333, .3333333333333333333333)
/ poolsize = 117
/ selectionmode = random
/ replace = false
</list>

<list pep_2>
/ items = (list.true_probes.nextvalue,
         list.false_probes.nextvalue,
         list.catch.nextvalue)
/ itemprobabilities = (.3333333333333333333333, .3333333333333333333333, .3333333333333333333333)
/ poolsize = 117
/ selectionmode = random
/ replace = false
</list>

<list pep_3>
/ items = (list.true_probes.nextvalue,
         list.false_probes.nextvalue,
         list.catch.nextvalue)
/ itemprobabilities = (.3333333333333333333333, .3333333333333333333333, .3333333333333333333333)
/ poolsize = 117
/ selectionmode = random
/ replace = false
</list>


<list true_probes>
/ items = (trial.4words_1_true,
         trial.4words_37_true,
         trial.5words_19_true,
         trial.6words_10_true,
         trial.6words_12_true,
         trial.7words_3_true,
         trial.7words_21_true,
         trial.7words_31_true,
         trial.7words_34_true,
         trial.8words_23_true,
         trial.9words_20_true,
         trial.9words_28_true,
         trial.9words_39_true,
         trial.10words_6_true,
         trial.10words_11_true,
         trial.11words_4_true,
         trial.11words_5_true,
         trial.11words_14_true,
         trial.11words_15_true,
         trial.11words_16_true,
         trial.11words_25_true,
         trial.12words_2_true,
         trial.12words_7_true,
         trial.14words_17_true,
         trial.14words_24_true,
         trial.14words_27_true,
         trial.15words_13_true,
         trial.15words_26_true,
         trial.15words_35_true,
         trial.15words_36_true,
         trial.16words_9_true,
         trial.16words_18_true,
         trial.16words_29_true,
         trial.16words_32_true,
         trial.18words_22_true,
         trial.18words_33_true,
         trial.19words_30_true,
         trial.20words_8_true,
         trial.23words_38_true)
/ itemprobabilities = (.02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564)
/ poolsize = 117
/ selectionmode = random
/ replace = false
</list>

<list false_probes>
/ items = (trial.4words_1_false,
         trial.4words_37_false,
         trial.5words_19_false,
         trial.6words_10_false,
         trial.6words_12_false,
         trial.7words_3_false,
         trial.7words_21_false,
         trial.7words_31_false,
         trial.7words_34_false,
         trial.8words_23_false,
         trial.9words_20_false,
         trial.9words_28_false,
         trial.9words_39_false,
         trial.10words_6_false,
         trial.10words_11_false,
         trial.11words_4_false,
         trial.11words_5_false,
         trial.11words_14_false,
         trial.11words_15_false,
         trial.11words_16_false,
         trial.11words_25_false,
         trial.12words_2_false,
         trial.12words_7_false,
         trial.14words_17_false,
         trial.14words_24_false,
         trial.14words_27_false,
         trial.15words_13_false,
         trial.15words_26_false,
         trial.15words_35_false,
         trial.15words_36_false,
         trial.16words_9_false,
         trial.16words_18_false,
         trial.16words_29_false,
         trial.16words_32_false,
         trial.18words_22_false,
         trial.18words_33_false,
         trial.19words_30_false,
         trial.20words_8_false,
         trial.23words_38_false)
/ itemprobabilities = (.02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564)
/ poolsize = 117
/ selectionmode = random
/ replace = false
</list>

<list catch>
/ items = (trial.4words_1_catch,
         trial.4words_37_catch,
         trial.5words_19_catch,
         trial.6words_10_catch,
         trial.6words_12_catch,
         trial.7words_3_catch,
         trial.7words_21_catch,
         trial.7words_31_catch,
         trial.7words_34_catch,
         trial.8words_23_catch,
         trial.9words_20_catch,
         trial.9words_28_catch,
         trial.9words_39_catch,
         trial.10words_6_catch,
         trial.10words_11_catch,
         trial.11words_4_catch,
         trial.11words_5_catch,
         trial.11words_14_catch,
         trial.11words_15_catch,
         trial.11words_16_catch,
         trial.11words_25_catch,
         trial.12words_2_catch,
         trial.12words_7_catch,
         trial.14words_17_catch,
         trial.14words_24_catch,
         trial.14words_27_catch,
         trial.15words_13_catch,
         trial.15words_26_catch,
         trial.15words_35_catch,
         trial.15words_36_catch,
         trial.16words_9_catch,
         trial.16words_18_catch,
         trial.16words_29_catch,
         trial.16words_32_catch,
         trial.18words_22_catch,
         trial.18words_33_catch,
         trial.19words_30_catch,
         trial.20words_8_catch,
         trial.23words_38_catch)
/ itemprobabilities = (.02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564)
/ poolsize = 117
/ selectionmode = random
/ replace = false
</list>

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M Gerathy - 7/27/2021

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Dave - 7/26/2021

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M Gerathy - 7/25/2021

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M Gerathy - 7/25/2021

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Dave - 7/21/2021

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M Gerathy - 7/21/2021

Thank you very much, David. The progress bar works perfectly. I really appreciate it.

However, the script seems to have developed a bug. For a few of the trial presentations the script is sometimes (not all times) presenting the sentences with missing words.

For example, there are two stimulus sentences that are similar (Probes 19 and 23):
"It is all right to coerce one's partner into having sex when they are not willing by forcing them"
"It is all right to coerce one's partner into having sex when they are not willing by giving the other alcohol or drugs"

Monkey runs of the script present these sentences with the appropriate probes (i.e. 3 times per block, 1 for each response probe). However, the monkley run will also present the sentence:
"It is all right to coerce one's partner into having sex when they are not" as a trial i.e. 3 times per block, 1 for each response probe).

I can find no reason for this in this script. The same is true for 2-3 other sentences in the stimulus list. And its always the same sentences so I dont think its my laptop's processing power.

Do you have any advice as to why this may be happening?

Thank you very much, David.

The progress bar has no effect whatsoever on the rest (trial selection, etc.), so the bug is in your original.

> And its always the same sentences

Then check the relevant trials. For example, you'll easily spot the mistakes here:

// 15 words trial but displays 23 words stimuli
<trial 15words_true>
/ inputdevice = keyboard
/ validresponse = ("a", "l")
/ correctresponse = ("a")
/ stimulustimes = [0=cross; 500=blank, 23words_1; 790=blank, 23words_2;
                    1080=blank, 23words_3; 1370=blank, 23words_4;
                    1660=blank, 23words_5; 1950=blank, 23words_6;
                    2240=blank, 23words_7; 2530=blank, 23words_8;
                    2820=blank, 23words_9; 3110=blank, 23words_10;
                    3400=blank, 23words_11; 3690=blank, 23words_12;
                    3980=blank, 23words_13; 4270=blank, 23words_14;
                    4560=blank, 23words_15; 5060=blank; 5560 = true_probe]
/ responsetime = 5560
/ responsemessage = ("l", wrong, 2000)
/ branch = [trial.iti]
</trial>

// 15 words trial but displays 23 words stimuli
<trial 15words_false>
/ inputdevice = keyboard
/ validresponse = ("a", "l")
/ correctresponse = ("l")
/ stimulustimes = [0=cross; 500=blank, 23words_1; 790=blank, 23words_2;
                    1080=blank, 23words_3; 1370=blank, 23words_4;
                    1660=blank, 23words_5; 1950=blank, 23words_6;
                    2240=blank, 23words_7; 2530=blank, 23words_8;
                    2820=blank, 23words_9; 3110=blank, 23words_10;
                    3400=blank, 23words_11; 3690=blank, 23words_12;
                    3980=blank, 23words_13; 4270=blank, 23words_14;
                    4560=blank, 23words_15; 5060=blank; 5560 = false_probe]
/ responsetime = 5560
/ responsemessage = ("a", wrong, 2000)
/ branch = [trial.iti]
</trial>

<trial 15words_catch>
/ inputdevice = keyboard
/ validresponse = ("a", "l")
/ correctresponse = ("a")
/ stimulustimes = [0=cross; 500=blank, 23words_1; 790=blank, 23words_2;
                    1080=blank, 23words_3; 1370=blank, 23words_4;
                    1660=blank, 23words_5; 1950=blank, 23words_6;
                    2240=blank, 23words_7; 2530=blank, 23words_8;
                    2820=blank, 23words_9; 3110=blank, 23words_10;
                    3400=blank, 23words_11; 3690=blank, 23words_12;
                    3980=blank, 23words_13; 4270=blank, 23words_14;
                    4560=blank, 23words_15; 5060=blank; 5560 = catch]
/ responsetime = 5560
/ branch = [trial.iti]
</trial>

Thank you very much. David. I really appreciate it.

So obvious when you point it out. I guess I'm too close to it.

This script is so close to being done now. Thanks in large part to your help. Is it possible to ask you one more question? I am having a bug with the distribution of teh <items> for the <list> within each <block>.

In total, I have 39 items that I wish to appear as individual trials 3 times within each of the 3 PEP experimental blocks (i.e. 9 times over the total experiment). That is, each item should appear once with each of the response prompts (i.e. true, false, catch) each block, with no replacement within the blocks. However, in the data I am noting that 1) some items are being replaced within a block and 2) some items are being selected more or less than the desired number of times.

I believe I have programmed the presentation probabilities for the items and lists correctly, as well as having placed '/response = false' commands in the correct places.

Any ideas where I am going wrong, David? Or anyone else?

I have attached an updated script as I have changed how the items are labelled to aid in data extraction. Thank you for any help you can offer.

*not '/ response = false', I have programmed '/ replace = false'.

Apologies.

Can you explain your math here and how that's supposed to correspond to

> In total, I have 39 items that I wish to appear as individual trials 3 times within each of the 3 PEP experimental blocks (i.e. 9 times over the total experiment).
> That is, each item should appear once with each of the response prompts (i.e. true, false, catch) each block, with no replacement within the blocks.

? Because I don't get it.

<list pep_1>
/ items = (list.true_probes.nextvalue,
         list.false_probes.nextvalue,
         list.catch.nextvalue)
/ itemprobabilities = (.3333333333333333333333, .3333333333333333333333, .3333333333333333333333)
/ poolsize = 117
/ selectionmode = random
/ replace = false
</list>

<list pep_2>
/ items = (list.true_probes.nextvalue,
         list.false_probes.nextvalue,
         list.catch.nextvalue)
/ itemprobabilities = (.3333333333333333333333, .3333333333333333333333, .3333333333333333333333)
/ poolsize = 117
/ selectionmode = random
/ replace = false
</list>

<list pep_3>
/ items = (list.true_probes.nextvalue,
         list.false_probes.nextvalue,
         list.catch.nextvalue)
/ itemprobabilities = (.3333333333333333333333, .3333333333333333333333, .3333333333333333333333)
/ poolsize = 117
/ selectionmode = random
/ replace = false
</list>


<list true_probes>
/ items = (trial.4words_1_true,
         trial.4words_37_true,
         trial.5words_19_true,
         trial.6words_10_true,
         trial.6words_12_true,
         trial.7words_3_true,
         trial.7words_21_true,
         trial.7words_31_true,
         trial.7words_34_true,
         trial.8words_23_true,
         trial.9words_20_true,
         trial.9words_28_true,
         trial.9words_39_true,
         trial.10words_6_true,
         trial.10words_11_true,
         trial.11words_4_true,
         trial.11words_5_true,
         trial.11words_14_true,
         trial.11words_15_true,
         trial.11words_16_true,
         trial.11words_25_true,
         trial.12words_2_true,
         trial.12words_7_true,
         trial.14words_17_true,
         trial.14words_24_true,
         trial.14words_27_true,
         trial.15words_13_true,
         trial.15words_26_true,
         trial.15words_35_true,
         trial.15words_36_true,
         trial.16words_9_true,
         trial.16words_18_true,
         trial.16words_29_true,
         trial.16words_32_true,
         trial.18words_22_true,
         trial.18words_33_true,
         trial.19words_30_true,
         trial.20words_8_true,
         trial.23words_38_true)
/ itemprobabilities = (.02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564)
/ poolsize = 117
/ selectionmode = random
/ replace = false
</list>

<list false_probes>
/ items = (trial.4words_1_false,
         trial.4words_37_false,
         trial.5words_19_false,
         trial.6words_10_false,
         trial.6words_12_false,
         trial.7words_3_false,
         trial.7words_21_false,
         trial.7words_31_false,
         trial.7words_34_false,
         trial.8words_23_false,
         trial.9words_20_false,
         trial.9words_28_false,
         trial.9words_39_false,
         trial.10words_6_false,
         trial.10words_11_false,
         trial.11words_4_false,
         trial.11words_5_false,
         trial.11words_14_false,
         trial.11words_15_false,
         trial.11words_16_false,
         trial.11words_25_false,
         trial.12words_2_false,
         trial.12words_7_false,
         trial.14words_17_false,
         trial.14words_24_false,
         trial.14words_27_false,
         trial.15words_13_false,
         trial.15words_26_false,
         trial.15words_35_false,
         trial.15words_36_false,
         trial.16words_9_false,
         trial.16words_18_false,
         trial.16words_29_false,
         trial.16words_32_false,
         trial.18words_22_false,
         trial.18words_33_false,
         trial.19words_30_false,
         trial.20words_8_false,
         trial.23words_38_false)
/ itemprobabilities = (.02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564)
/ poolsize = 117
/ selectionmode = random
/ replace = false
</list>

<list catch>
/ items = (trial.4words_1_catch,
         trial.4words_37_catch,
         trial.5words_19_catch,
         trial.6words_10_catch,
         trial.6words_12_catch,
         trial.7words_3_catch,
         trial.7words_21_catch,
         trial.7words_31_catch,
         trial.7words_34_catch,
         trial.8words_23_catch,
         trial.9words_20_catch,
         trial.9words_28_catch,
         trial.9words_39_catch,
         trial.10words_6_catch,
         trial.10words_11_catch,
         trial.11words_4_catch,
         trial.11words_5_catch,
         trial.11words_14_catch,
         trial.11words_15_catch,
         trial.11words_16_catch,
         trial.11words_25_catch,
         trial.12words_2_catch,
         trial.12words_7_catch,
         trial.14words_17_catch,
         trial.14words_24_catch,
         trial.14words_27_catch,
         trial.15words_13_catch,
         trial.15words_26_catch,
         trial.15words_35_catch,
         trial.15words_36_catch,
         trial.16words_9_catch,
         trial.16words_18_catch,
         trial.16words_29_catch,
         trial.16words_32_catch,
         trial.18words_22_catch,
         trial.18words_33_catch,
         trial.19words_30_catch,
         trial.20words_8_catch,
         trial.23words_38_catch)
/ itemprobabilities = (.02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564,
                     .02564102564102564102564)
/ poolsize = 117
/ selectionmode = random
/ replace = false
</list>

Thanks for getting back to me David.

This is how I think it works though, I suspect I have got the mechanics wrong:

Each list (i.e. 1 for each of the different response probes) has 39 trials (i.e. 1 for each of the 39 different stimulus items), which are coded to be selected with equal probability. Each block contains 3 lists (therefore 39*3 = 117 trials per block), which are also coded to be selected with equal probability. I was of the belief that this would then code the program to select 1 trial from each list for all 39 different stimulus items, resulting in 3 presentations of each stimulus item (i.e. 1 for each of the response probes) per block, for 3 blocks and therefore 9 total presentations (i.e. 3 for each list type) of each stimulus item over the entire experiment.

Is this at all helpful?

Thank you again, David.

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M Gerathy - 7/27/2021

For example, each block's data would record one presentation each of:
trial.8words_23_true
trial.8words_23_false
trial.8words_23_catch

with the same being true for all the other stimulus items.

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M Gerathy - 7/29/2021

Thank you very much, David. Clearly I need to spend some more time learning the software.

The project is now completely ready to run.

+x

 

M Gerathy - 7/30/2021

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M Gerathy - 7/29/2021

Thank you very much, David. Clearly I need to spend some more time learning the software.

The project is now completely ready to run.

I'm so sorry, David but I have instituted your changes and I am still experiencing the same problems (i.e. items presented less or more than the desired 9 times over the experiment, and being replaced into the list within each PEP block). I apologise, but at my level of understanding of the software I dont know where else to look to solve the problem.

Thank you very much again.

Matt.