Redirection problem


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it's not about what is true, it's about what people believe is true


I agree. However, it may be possible to correct that false belief if the people in question have some basic understanding of security.


I only have pilot experience with this particular group and they didn't like downloading an Java application


Now I'm confused. Didn't you just say they preferred the Java option over the other alternatives?


Am I right, that I can refer to NPAPI security standards for Firefox and Chorme, and to ActivX, OneClick for IE?


I am not sure what your question here is. Could you please rephrase / elaborate?


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They didn't like downloading anything. I give the plug-in a try. Excuse my confusing phrase.


I need to inform my participants about the software they are downloading, whatever it is. So I need to know what exactly they are going to download. For Firefox, Chorme my understanding is that they download a NPAPI plug-in, and for IE an ActiveX application (depending on my configuration).




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They didn't like downloading anything. I give the plug-in a try. Excuse my confusing phrase.


Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification. With regards to the necessity of downloading / installing a plugin (in a broad sense): Inquisit does a number of things a browser just does not / cannot do (e.g. precise stimulus presentation and response recording). Thus the executable code, Inquisit's "engine", somehow has to be delivered to the client machines, i.e., via the various available launch methods.


I need to inform my participants about the software they are downloading, whatever it is. So I need to know what exactly they are going to download. For Firefox, Chorme my understanding is that they download a NPAPI plug-in, and for IE an ActiveX application (depending on my configuration).


Yes, that is correct. In IE, there's the additional ClickOnce option, i.e., a Microsoft .net-application.


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That's why we chose Inquisit, and I completely understand that there a lot of variables to consider when measuring reaction time. I have to make my participants understand. Like I said highly suspicious group ;)


Thanks for you time and answers!


Regards,


Max


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I have had this problem too (26 Feb2013: https://millisecond.com/forums/Topic9776.aspx)


When configuring the launch page for my task, I initially had all the
options ticked (ActiveX, ClickOnce, MozillaPugin, JavaWebStart) and redirection
back to the Survey Monkey failed.


Having read the comments in this post, I have now just had a go with only
MozillaPlugin selected, and redirection now works.  I will try again with the other options
one at a time to see which, if any, is problematic.


As a new user to Inquisit, and I still learning about these download
technologies.  Is there anywhere that tells me what these options are, and
why one might be better than the others?


Regards


Suzanna


PS:  I so wish other programming/testing software had a forum like this!  It is SO useful....



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As a further comment I tried with each option alone in turn.


Not sure if this of use for a bug report or trying to replicate the problem...


Suzanna




Using Firefox 19.0.2 with Java Console 6.0.43 Add-on and Inquisit Web 4.0.2, I tried with one download option at a time selected:


ActiveX: Inquisit launch page has error message: ”Unable to start because
Java is not enabled in your browser. Either enable Java or try using a
different browser.”


ClickOnce: Inquisit launch page has error message: “Unable to start because
Java is not enabled in your browser. Either enable Java or try using a
different browser.”


MozillaPlugin: Inquisit launches. Inquisit returns to SurveyMonkey.  All works fine.


Javawebstart: Inquisit launches.using a jnlp download and runs fine, but at
the end of the task it doesn’t return to the SurveyMonkey task.



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As a new user to Inquisit, and I still learning about these download
technologies.  Is there anywhere that tells me what these options are, and
why one might be better than the others?


They are just different ways to get the Inquisit "engine" code that's responsible for stimulus presentation, response logging, etc. onto a participant's system. An Inquisit web experiment does not actually run in your browser, nor are any measurements performed on the server-side. That would not be a suitable way to measure RTs and do precisely timed stimulus display. Instead all measurements are done locally on the client machine essentially as if the script was run with Inquisit Desktop / Lab. So, your browser along with those launch technologies are just used as a "vehicle" to deliver all required components (the engine, your scripts, any pictures, etc.) to the subject's machine.


None of the available launch technologies is inherently better than any other. Some browsers are not compatible with some of those technologies. For example, Internet Explorer is the only browser that supports ActiveX controls. Other methods depend on how a user has configured her / his system or browser. For example, a person might have a Java Runtime environment installed, but chosen to disable it in the browser.


The fact that redirection does not work properly in some cases when the JavaWebStart method is used is unfortunate and will be addressed in a future update.


Hope this helps,


~Dave


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That's very helpful. I have the same pattern. ActiveX and ClickOnce only work with InternetExplorer, so you should include at least on of the options, if you expect IE users to do the test.


And [Y] up for the admin!!!


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Thanks Dave and mbirk.  Very helpful....



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