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mongrel - 2/24/2020

Hello everybody,

I have an explicit attitude questionnaire with one item-picture and three response scales on each page.
Now, I have two questions:

1. I would like the items to be presented in randimized order with certain constraints (e.g., B should never follow A, E should never be presented after D...). Is that possible? How?
2. Also, I would like to show blank pages between surveypages containing items. Is that possible? How?

Thank you very much in advance!
Best,
Ronja

Re. 1) Use a <list> with /not constraints to sample your items or pages.

Re. 2) Run your surveypages via <block> and from each surveypage you can /branch to a trial displaying a blank screen for the duration of your choice.

Hey Dave,

thanks for the quick reply! I have a few more questions, though.
1. It is not possible to use list for surveypages, right? Each item is on one page, see attached script. How can I randomize surveypages with certain constraints? And...
2. If I run the survey as a block, I have to change the surveypages into trials and cannot use sliders anymore, right?
Thank you very much!
Best,
R

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mongrel - 2/24/2020

Hey Dave,

thanks for the quick reply! I have a few more questions, though.
1. It is not possible to use list for surveypages, right? Each item is on one page, see attached script. How can I randomize surveypages with certain constraints? And...
2. If I run the survey as a block, I have to change the surveypages into trials and cannot use sliders anymore, right?
Thank you very much!
Best,
R

> 1. It is not possible to use list for surveypages, right?

It's perfectly possible.

> 2. If I run the survey as a block, I have to change the surveypages into trials and cannot use sliders anymore, right?

No. A <surveypage> *is* a special type of <trial>, you can run <surveypage>s per a <block>'s /trials attribute or any other means, just like regular <trial> elements.

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Dave - 2/24/2020

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mongrel - 2/24/2020

Hey Dave,

thanks for the quick reply! I have a few more questions, though.
1. It is not possible to use list for surveypages, right? Each item is on one page, see attached script. How can I randomize surveypages with certain constraints? And...
2. If I run the survey as a block, I have to change the surveypages into trials and cannot use sliders anymore, right?
Thank you very much!
Best,
R

> 1. It is not possible to use list for surveypages, right?

It's perfectly possible.

> 2. If I run the survey as a block, I have to change the surveypages into trials and cannot use sliders anymore, right?

No. A <surveypage> *is* a special type of <trial>, you can run <surveypage>s per a <block>'s /trials attribute or any other means, just like regular <trial> elements.

Note: I can't say anything about the script you attached, because it's unclear to me what exactly you want it to do. It does not seem to correspond to your initial description:

" I would like the items to be presented in randimized order with certain constraints (e.g., B should never follow A, E should never be presented after D...)."

In the script, there are only elements designated A and B, so I'm not sure how "B should never follow A" is supposed to be achievable.

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Dave - 2/24/2020

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Dave - 2/24/2020

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mongrel - 2/24/2020

Hey Dave,

thanks for the quick reply! I have a few more questions, though.
1. It is not possible to use list for surveypages, right? Each item is on one page, see attached script. How can I randomize surveypages with certain constraints? And...
2. If I run the survey as a block, I have to change the surveypages into trials and cannot use sliders anymore, right?
Thank you very much!
Best,
R

> 1. It is not possible to use list for surveypages, right?

It's perfectly possible.

> 2. If I run the survey as a block, I have to change the surveypages into trials and cannot use sliders anymore, right?

No. A <surveypage> *is* a special type of <trial>, you can run <surveypage>s per a <block>'s /trials attribute or any other means, just like regular <trial> elements.

Note: I can't say anything about the script you attached, because it's unclear to me what exactly you want it to do. It does not seem to correspond to your initial description:

" I would like the items to be presented in randimized order with certain constraints (e.g., B should never follow A, E should never be presented after D...)."

In the script, there are only elements designated A and B, so I'm not sure how "B should never follow A" is supposed to be achievable.

Thanks a lot!
Sorry, that must have been confusing. A1 is not supposed to follow A and the other way around, B should not follow B1 and the other way around. (I just called them A and B when I thought there would not be any need to attach the script...).

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mongrel - 2/24/2020

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Dave - 2/24/2020

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Dave - 2/24/2020

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mongrel - 2/24/2020

Hey Dave,

thanks for the quick reply! I have a few more questions, though.
1. It is not possible to use list for surveypages, right? Each item is on one page, see attached script. How can I randomize surveypages with certain constraints? And...
2. If I run the survey as a block, I have to change the surveypages into trials and cannot use sliders anymore, right?
Thank you very much!
Best,
R

> 1. It is not possible to use list for surveypages, right?

It's perfectly possible.

> 2. If I run the survey as a block, I have to change the surveypages into trials and cannot use sliders anymore, right?

No. A <surveypage> *is* a special type of <trial>, you can run <surveypage>s per a <block>'s /trials attribute or any other means, just like regular <trial> elements.

Note: I can't say anything about the script you attached, because it's unclear to me what exactly you want it to do. It does not seem to correspond to your initial description:

" I would like the items to be presented in randimized order with certain constraints (e.g., B should never follow A, E should never be presented after D...)."

In the script, there are only elements designated A and B, so I'm not sure how "B should never follow A" is supposed to be achievable.

Thanks a lot!
Sorry, that must have been confusing. A1 is not supposed to follow A and the other way around, B should not follow B1 and the other way around. (I just called them A and B when I thought there would not be any need to attach the script...).

Okay, and what is and isn't supposed to follow A1, A2, etc. and B1, B2, etc. Can you spell that out, please, and please do so completely

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mongrel - 2/24/2020

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Dave - 2/24/2020

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Dave - 2/24/2020

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mongrel - 2/24/2020

Hey Dave,

thanks for the quick reply! I have a few more questions, though.
1. It is not possible to use list for surveypages, right? Each item is on one page, see attached script. How can I randomize surveypages with certain constraints? And...
2. If I run the survey as a block, I have to change the surveypages into trials and cannot use sliders anymore, right?
Thank you very much!
Best,
R

> 1. It is not possible to use list for surveypages, right?

It's perfectly possible.

> 2. If I run the survey as a block, I have to change the surveypages into trials and cannot use sliders anymore, right?

No. A <surveypage> *is* a special type of <trial>, you can run <surveypage>s per a <block>'s /trials attribute or any other means, just like regular <trial> elements.

Note: I can't say anything about the script you attached, because it's unclear to me what exactly you want it to do. It does not seem to correspond to your initial description:

" I would like the items to be presented in randimized order with certain constraints (e.g., B should never follow A, E should never be presented after D...)."

In the script, there are only elements designated A and B, so I'm not sure how "B should never follow A" is supposed to be achievable.

Thanks a lot!
Sorry, that must have been confusing. A1 is not supposed to follow A and the other way around, B should not follow B1 and the other way around. (I just called them A and B when I thought there would not be any need to attach the script...).

Still, there is something wrong with my usage of the list and the surveypages. I would appreciate it if you could take another look. Thank you in advance!

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mongrel - 2/24/2020

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mongrel - 2/24/2020

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Dave - 2/24/2020

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Dave - 2/24/2020

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mongrel - 2/24/2020

Hey Dave,

thanks for the quick reply! I have a few more questions, though.
1. It is not possible to use list for surveypages, right? Each item is on one page, see attached script. How can I randomize surveypages with certain constraints? And...
2. If I run the survey as a block, I have to change the surveypages into trials and cannot use sliders anymore, right?
Thank you very much!
Best,
R

> 1. It is not possible to use list for surveypages, right?

It's perfectly possible.

> 2. If I run the survey as a block, I have to change the surveypages into trials and cannot use sliders anymore, right?

No. A <surveypage> *is* a special type of <trial>, you can run <surveypage>s per a <block>'s /trials attribute or any other means, just like regular <trial> elements.

Note: I can't say anything about the script you attached, because it's unclear to me what exactly you want it to do. It does not seem to correspond to your initial description:

" I would like the items to be presented in randimized order with certain constraints (e.g., B should never follow A, E should never be presented after D...)."

In the script, there are only elements designated A and B, so I'm not sure how "B should never follow A" is supposed to be achievable.

Thanks a lot!
Sorry, that must have been confusing. A1 is not supposed to follow A and the other way around, B should not follow B1 and the other way around. (I just called them A and B when I thought there would not be any need to attach the script...).

Still, there is something wrong with my usage of the list and the surveypages. I would appreciate it if you could take another look. Thank you in advance!

Sorry, sent the reply before I saw yours!

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Dave - 2/24/2020

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mongrel - 2/24/2020

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Dave - 2/24/2020

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Dave - 2/24/2020

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mongrel - 2/24/2020

Hey Dave,

thanks for the quick reply! I have a few more questions, though.
1. It is not possible to use list for surveypages, right? Each item is on one page, see attached script. How can I randomize surveypages with certain constraints? And...
2. If I run the survey as a block, I have to change the surveypages into trials and cannot use sliders anymore, right?
Thank you very much!
Best,
R

> 1. It is not possible to use list for surveypages, right?

It's perfectly possible.

> 2. If I run the survey as a block, I have to change the surveypages into trials and cannot use sliders anymore, right?

No. A <surveypage> *is* a special type of <trial>, you can run <surveypage>s per a <block>'s /trials attribute or any other means, just like regular <trial> elements.

Note: I can't say anything about the script you attached, because it's unclear to me what exactly you want it to do. It does not seem to correspond to your initial description:

" I would like the items to be presented in randimized order with certain constraints (e.g., B should never follow A, E should never be presented after D...)."

In the script, there are only elements designated A and B, so I'm not sure how "B should never follow A" is supposed to be achievable.

Thanks a lot!
Sorry, that must have been confusing. A1 is not supposed to follow A and the other way around, B should not follow B1 and the other way around. (I just called them A and B when I thought there would not be any need to attach the script...).

Okay, and what is and isn't supposed to follow A1, A2, etc. and B1, B2, etc. Can you spell that out, please, and please do so completely

OK, so:

All surveypages should be presented in randomized order. However, A1 should never follow after participants saw A and the other way around, meaning: After A: A2, A3, A4, B, B1, B2, B3, B4 are allowed, only A1 is not allowed to follow A. Same for A1 with A; after A1: A2, A3, A4, B, B1, B2, B3, B4 are allowed, only A is not allowed to follow A1. Same with B and B1; after B; A, A1, A2, A3, A4, B2, B3, B4 are allowed, only B1 is not allowed to follow B. And the other way around:  after B1: A, A1, A2, A3, A4, B2, B3, B4 are allowed, only B is not allowed to follow B1. All others should be randomized and there are no constraints to that. I hope, it makes more sense now.