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dastout - 2/19/2025

Good Afternoon,

I'm new to Millisecond/Inquisit and I'm trying to get an experiment setup for a 2 group x 8 session design that I plan to run on the Web platform. Each group will get a different version of a cognitive training task. The plan was to create 8 different versions of the task per group (so 16 total). When I created the batch script, I'm able to assign different versions of the task based on groupid if I don't specify session. But when I try to add session in the batch in addition to group, I get errors. I'm wondering what is the best way to set this design up?

I reviewed the nested batch help (https://forums.millisecond.com/Topic33992.aspx), but ran into an issue assigning the main batch script as the start script under the "This experiment runs multiple tests" section online. Only the additional batch scripts were selectable, not the main batch script.

Any guidance/insight would be much appreciated!

Thanks,

Danny

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Dave - 2/20/2025

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dastout - 2/19/2025

Good Afternoon,

I'm new to Millisecond/Inquisit and I'm trying to get an experiment setup for a 2 group x 8 session design that I plan to run on the Web platform. Each group will get a different version of a cognitive training task. The plan was to create 8 different versions of the task per group (so 16 total). When I created the batch script, I'm able to assign different versions of the task based on groupid if I don't specify session. But when I try to add session in the batch in addition to group, I get errors. I'm wondering what is the best way to set this design up?

I reviewed the nested batch help (https://forums.millisecond.com/Topic33992.aspx), but ran into an issue assigning the main batch script as the start script under the "This experiment runs multiple tests" section online. Only the additional batch scripts were selectable, not the main batch script.

Any guidance/insight would be much appreciated!

Thanks,

Danny

> When I created the batch script, I'm able to assign different versions of the task based on groupid if I don't specify session. But when I try to add session in the batch in addition to group, I get errors.

Then please show your code and the respective errors.

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dastout - 2/20/2025

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Dave - 2/20/2025

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dastout - 2/19/2025

Good Afternoon,

I'm new to Millisecond/Inquisit and I'm trying to get an experiment setup for a 2 group x 8 session design that I plan to run on the Web platform. Each group will get a different version of a cognitive training task. The plan was to create 8 different versions of the task per group (so 16 total). When I created the batch script, I'm able to assign different versions of the task based on groupid if I don't specify session. But when I try to add session in the batch in addition to group, I get errors. I'm wondering what is the best way to set this design up?

I reviewed the nested batch help (https://forums.millisecond.com/Topic33992.aspx), but ran into an issue assigning the main batch script as the start script under the "This experiment runs multiple tests" section online. Only the additional batch scripts were selectable, not the main batch script.

Any guidance/insight would be much appreciated!

Thanks,

Danny

> When I created the batch script, I'm able to assign different versions of the task based on groupid if I don't specify session. But when I try to add session in the batch in addition to group, I get errors.

Then please show your code and the respective errors.

In my mainbatch.iqjs script, I set up 9 sessions (1 for practice and 8 for actual tasks; so this is technically a 2x9 design). Within this mainbatch.iqjs script (see attached), I set up the 9 sessions and call upon individual session batch scripts (session 1 and 2 attached for examples). 

Within each of the 9 session batch scripts, I set up the group assignment of the specific task to run depending upon group id. I aim to assign groups using the URL parameter online. I also do add  "/Sessions" lines in these batch scripts and I'm wondering if I should remove them. 

However, when I upload all of these scripts, in addition to the specific task scripts, the mainbatch.iqjs shows up in the "Experiment runs a single test" Scripts dropdown menu (see attached png). But, the mainbatch.iqjs does not appear in the "This experiment runs multiple tests" drop-down menu. Instead, only the individual session batch scripts that appear (see attached PNG). So, one of these individual session batch scripts are then assigned to the Script Path as shown on the summary page (see PNG). If I try to create a URL and run the code, I get an error message (see error message png).

Related to setting up the Script arrangement online, should I be adding the specific tasks that are relevant to the corresponding row in the Test Batches section (see attached test batches screen png) or do I need to add more batches to handle all the individual session batch scripts and tasks?

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Dave - 2/20/2025

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dastout - 2/20/2025

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Dave - 2/20/2025

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dastout - 2/19/2025

Good Afternoon,

I'm new to Millisecond/Inquisit and I'm trying to get an experiment setup for a 2 group x 8 session design that I plan to run on the Web platform. Each group will get a different version of a cognitive training task. The plan was to create 8 different versions of the task per group (so 16 total). When I created the batch script, I'm able to assign different versions of the task based on groupid if I don't specify session. But when I try to add session in the batch in addition to group, I get errors. I'm wondering what is the best way to set this design up?

I reviewed the nested batch help (https://forums.millisecond.com/Topic33992.aspx), but ran into an issue assigning the main batch script as the start script under the "This experiment runs multiple tests" section online. Only the additional batch scripts were selectable, not the main batch script.

Any guidance/insight would be much appreciated!

Thanks,

Danny

> When I created the batch script, I'm able to assign different versions of the task based on groupid if I don't specify session. But when I try to add session in the batch in addition to group, I get errors.

Then please show your code and the respective errors.

In my mainbatch.iqjs script, I set up 9 sessions (1 for practice and 8 for actual tasks; so this is technically a 2x9 design). Within this mainbatch.iqjs script (see attached), I set up the 9 sessions and call upon individual session batch scripts (session 1 and 2 attached for examples). 

Within each of the 9 session batch scripts, I set up the group assignment of the specific task to run depending upon group id. I aim to assign groups using the URL parameter online. I also do add  "/Sessions" lines in these batch scripts and I'm wondering if I should remove them. 

However, when I upload all of these scripts, in addition to the specific task scripts, the mainbatch.iqjs shows up in the "Experiment runs a single test" Scripts dropdown menu (see attached png). But, the mainbatch.iqjs does not appear in the "This experiment runs multiple tests" drop-down menu. Instead, only the individual session batch scripts that appear (see attached PNG). So, one of these individual session batch scripts are then assigned to the Script Path as shown on the summary page (see PNG). If I try to create a URL and run the code, I get an error message (see error message png).

Related to setting up the Script arrangement online, should I be adding the specific tasks that are relevant to the corresponding row in the Test Batches section (see attached test batches screen png) or do I need to add more batches to handle all the individual session batch scripts and tasks?

First, there is no need for nested batches.

Second, the various errors you are getting a due to syntax mistakes and typos in your batch scripts.

In any case, all you need is a single batch script, set up like so:

<batch g1>
/ groups = (1 of 2)
/ sessions = (1 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_prac.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g2>
/ groups = (1 of 2)
/ sessions = (2 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_s1.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g3>
/ groups = (1 of 2)
/ sessions = (3 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_s2.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g4>
/ groups = (1 of 2)
/ sessions = (4 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_s3.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g5>
/ groups = (1 of 2)
/sessions = (5 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_s4.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g6>
/ groups = (1 of 2)
/ sessions = (6 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_s5.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g7>
/ groups = (1 of 2)
/ sessions = (7 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_s6.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g8>
/ groups = (1 of 2)
/ sessions = (8 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_s7.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g9>
/ groups = (1 of 2)
/ sessions = (9 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_s8.iqjs"
</batch>


<batch g10>
/ groups = (2 of 2)
/ sessions=(1 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_nointer_prac.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g11>
/ groups = (2 of 2)
/ sessions = (2 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_nointer_s1.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g12>
/ groups = (2 of 2)
/ sessions = (3 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_nointer_s2.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g13>
/ groups = (2 of 2)
/ sessions = (4 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_nointer_s3.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g14>
/ groups = (2 of 2)
/ sessions = (5 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_nointer_s4.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g15>
/ groups = (2 of 2)
/ sessions = (6 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_nointer_s5.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g16>
/ groups = (2 of 2)
/ sessions = (7 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_nointer_s6.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g17>
/ groups = (2 of 2)
/ sessions = (8 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_nointer_s7.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g18>
/ groups = (2 of 2)
/ sessions = (9 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_nointer_s8.iqjs"
</batch>

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dastout - 2/20/2025

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Dave - 2/20/2025

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dastout - 2/20/2025

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Dave - 2/20/2025

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dastout - 2/19/2025

Good Afternoon,

I'm new to Millisecond/Inquisit and I'm trying to get an experiment setup for a 2 group x 8 session design that I plan to run on the Web platform. Each group will get a different version of a cognitive training task. The plan was to create 8 different versions of the task per group (so 16 total). When I created the batch script, I'm able to assign different versions of the task based on groupid if I don't specify session. But when I try to add session in the batch in addition to group, I get errors. I'm wondering what is the best way to set this design up?

I reviewed the nested batch help (https://forums.millisecond.com/Topic33992.aspx), but ran into an issue assigning the main batch script as the start script under the "This experiment runs multiple tests" section online. Only the additional batch scripts were selectable, not the main batch script.

Any guidance/insight would be much appreciated!

Thanks,

Danny

> When I created the batch script, I'm able to assign different versions of the task based on groupid if I don't specify session. But when I try to add session in the batch in addition to group, I get errors.

Then please show your code and the respective errors.

In my mainbatch.iqjs script, I set up 9 sessions (1 for practice and 8 for actual tasks; so this is technically a 2x9 design). Within this mainbatch.iqjs script (see attached), I set up the 9 sessions and call upon individual session batch scripts (session 1 and 2 attached for examples). 

Within each of the 9 session batch scripts, I set up the group assignment of the specific task to run depending upon group id. I aim to assign groups using the URL parameter online. I also do add  "/Sessions" lines in these batch scripts and I'm wondering if I should remove them. 

However, when I upload all of these scripts, in addition to the specific task scripts, the mainbatch.iqjs shows up in the "Experiment runs a single test" Scripts dropdown menu (see attached png). But, the mainbatch.iqjs does not appear in the "This experiment runs multiple tests" drop-down menu. Instead, only the individual session batch scripts that appear (see attached PNG). So, one of these individual session batch scripts are then assigned to the Script Path as shown on the summary page (see PNG). If I try to create a URL and run the code, I get an error message (see error message png).

Related to setting up the Script arrangement online, should I be adding the specific tasks that are relevant to the corresponding row in the Test Batches section (see attached test batches screen png) or do I need to add more batches to handle all the individual session batch scripts and tasks?

First, there is no need for nested batches.

Second, the various errors you are getting a due to syntax mistakes and typos in your batch scripts.

In any case, all you need is a single batch script, set up like so:

<batch g1>
/ groups = (1 of 2)
/ sessions = (1 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_prac.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g2>
/ groups = (1 of 2)
/ sessions = (2 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_s1.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g3>
/ groups = (1 of 2)
/ sessions = (3 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_s2.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g4>
/ groups = (1 of 2)
/ sessions = (4 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_s3.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g5>
/ groups = (1 of 2)
/sessions = (5 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_s4.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g6>
/ groups = (1 of 2)
/ sessions = (6 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_s5.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g7>
/ groups = (1 of 2)
/ sessions = (7 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_s6.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g8>
/ groups = (1 of 2)
/ sessions = (8 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_s7.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g9>
/ groups = (1 of 2)
/ sessions = (9 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_s8.iqjs"
</batch>


<batch g10>
/ groups = (2 of 2)
/ sessions=(1 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_nointer_prac.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g11>
/ groups = (2 of 2)
/ sessions = (2 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_nointer_s1.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g12>
/ groups = (2 of 2)
/ sessions = (3 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_nointer_s2.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g13>
/ groups = (2 of 2)
/ sessions = (4 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_nointer_s3.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g14>
/ groups = (2 of 2)
/ sessions = (5 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_nointer_s4.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g15>
/ groups = (2 of 2)
/ sessions = (6 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_nointer_s5.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g16>
/ groups = (2 of 2)
/ sessions = (7 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_nointer_s6.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g17>
/ groups = (2 of 2)
/ sessions = (8 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_nointer_s7.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g18>
/ groups = (2 of 2)
/ sessions = (9 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_nointer_s8.iqjs"
</batch>

Great, thanks! It does make sense that I don't need nested scripts. One question with the above edits, how are the session numbers handled? This maintains a 2 URL system. Is the session number from the batch script linked to the subject ID such that each time the URL is used for a given subject ID, a new session is created (up to 9)? If so, is this then logged in the data file session column? 

Another way, although tedious and likely error prone, I thought was to create 18 groups so that I then create 18 URLs. Then I'd create a 2 x 9 URL table that I copy and paste to send to participants. I'd have to make sure that the correct groupid URL is used at each session though...

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Dave - 2/20/2025

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dastout - 2/20/2025

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Dave - 2/20/2025

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dastout - 2/20/2025

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Dave - 2/20/2025

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dastout - 2/19/2025

Good Afternoon,

I'm new to Millisecond/Inquisit and I'm trying to get an experiment setup for a 2 group x 8 session design that I plan to run on the Web platform. Each group will get a different version of a cognitive training task. The plan was to create 8 different versions of the task per group (so 16 total). When I created the batch script, I'm able to assign different versions of the task based on groupid if I don't specify session. But when I try to add session in the batch in addition to group, I get errors. I'm wondering what is the best way to set this design up?

I reviewed the nested batch help (https://forums.millisecond.com/Topic33992.aspx), but ran into an issue assigning the main batch script as the start script under the "This experiment runs multiple tests" section online. Only the additional batch scripts were selectable, not the main batch script.

Any guidance/insight would be much appreciated!

Thanks,

Danny

> When I created the batch script, I'm able to assign different versions of the task based on groupid if I don't specify session. But when I try to add session in the batch in addition to group, I get errors.

Then please show your code and the respective errors.

In my mainbatch.iqjs script, I set up 9 sessions (1 for practice and 8 for actual tasks; so this is technically a 2x9 design). Within this mainbatch.iqjs script (see attached), I set up the 9 sessions and call upon individual session batch scripts (session 1 and 2 attached for examples). 

Within each of the 9 session batch scripts, I set up the group assignment of the specific task to run depending upon group id. I aim to assign groups using the URL parameter online. I also do add  "/Sessions" lines in these batch scripts and I'm wondering if I should remove them. 

However, when I upload all of these scripts, in addition to the specific task scripts, the mainbatch.iqjs shows up in the "Experiment runs a single test" Scripts dropdown menu (see attached png). But, the mainbatch.iqjs does not appear in the "This experiment runs multiple tests" drop-down menu. Instead, only the individual session batch scripts that appear (see attached PNG). So, one of these individual session batch scripts are then assigned to the Script Path as shown on the summary page (see PNG). If I try to create a URL and run the code, I get an error message (see error message png).

Related to setting up the Script arrangement online, should I be adding the specific tasks that are relevant to the corresponding row in the Test Batches section (see attached test batches screen png) or do I need to add more batches to handle all the individual session batch scripts and tasks?

First, there is no need for nested batches.

Second, the various errors you are getting a due to syntax mistakes and typos in your batch scripts.

In any case, all you need is a single batch script, set up like so:

<batch g1>
/ groups = (1 of 2)
/ sessions = (1 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_prac.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g2>
/ groups = (1 of 2)
/ sessions = (2 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_s1.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g3>
/ groups = (1 of 2)
/ sessions = (3 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_s2.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g4>
/ groups = (1 of 2)
/ sessions = (4 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_s3.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g5>
/ groups = (1 of 2)
/sessions = (5 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_s4.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g6>
/ groups = (1 of 2)
/ sessions = (6 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_s5.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g7>
/ groups = (1 of 2)
/ sessions = (7 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_s6.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g8>
/ groups = (1 of 2)
/ sessions = (8 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_s7.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g9>
/ groups = (1 of 2)
/ sessions = (9 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_s8.iqjs"
</batch>


<batch g10>
/ groups = (2 of 2)
/ sessions=(1 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_nointer_prac.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g11>
/ groups = (2 of 2)
/ sessions = (2 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_nointer_s1.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g12>
/ groups = (2 of 2)
/ sessions = (3 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_nointer_s2.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g13>
/ groups = (2 of 2)
/ sessions = (4 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_nointer_s3.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g14>
/ groups = (2 of 2)
/ sessions = (5 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_nointer_s4.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g15>
/ groups = (2 of 2)
/ sessions = (6 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_nointer_s5.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g16>
/ groups = (2 of 2)
/ sessions = (7 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_nointer_s6.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g17>
/ groups = (2 of 2)
/ sessions = (8 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_nointer_s7.iqjs"
</batch>

<batch g18>
/ groups = (2 of 2)
/ sessions = (9 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_nointer_s8.iqjs"
</batch>

Great, thanks! It does make sense that I don't need nested scripts. One question with the above edits, how are the session numbers handled? This maintains a 2 URL system. Is the session number from the batch script linked to the subject ID such that each time the URL is used for a given subject ID, a new session is created (up to 9)? If so, is this then logged in the data file session column? 

Another way, although tedious and likely error prone, I thought was to create 18 groups so that I then create 18 URLs. Then I'd create a 2 x 9 URL table that I copy and paste to send to participants. I'd have to make sure that the correct groupid URL is used at each session though...

Sesson number is tracked automatically by the server. First run under a given subject ID is session number 1. If the subject hits the finish page, sesson number is increased. Next time the task is run under that same iD, session number will be 2, and so forth.

Alternatively, and sometimes preferably, you can pass in session number via URL parameter, the parameter must be called sessionid. E.g.

https://mili2nd.co/uxic?groupid=2&sessionid=4

will run

<batch g13>
/ groups = (2 of 2)
/ sessions = (4 of 9)
/ file = "rspan_adaptive_nointer_s3.iqjs"
</batch>