Constrained randomisation trouble


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Dear forum,


I’m a little trapped by a tricky design for a false memory experiment.  The issue is that I have 60 sets of 5 associates (e.g., ADD: subtract, sum, plus, multiply, maths), half of which will be presented randomly (i.e., any associate from any list can be presented as part of a 5 stimuli sequence before a textbox appears for recall), and half of which need to be presented as complete sets (i.e., “lists”)  in the sequence specified (e.g.,  1 = subtract, 2 =  sum, 3 = plus, 4 =  multiply, 5 = maths). Unfortunately, the sets that become “random” and those that become “lists” are ideally random too, however, to satisfy the constraints (the researchers would REALLY like for all stimuli to be presented to each participant, and NEVER to appear more than once) this assignment seems to need to be done at the beginning of the experiment.


For completeness, there is also a picture element. Specifically, the design is 2 (random, list) by 3 (no picture, matched picture, unmatched picture). This works fine.


So, I hit problems if I have “random” sequences presented first –because single items are chosen from too many whole sets (e.g., 10 random sequences can draw from 50 “lists”, leaving only 10 unsampled lists rather than the 30 needed) . This will be true for 50% of participant. I figure that if I could randomly assign sets to be used for “random” versus “lists”, I could fix this, but I can’t seem to work out how to do this (probably at the experiment level).  


The code is huge (and includes 300 images too) so I have left it out. Any suggestions on how this could be achieved would be GREATLY appreciated!


Thanks, Leah


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LMK - 12 Years Ago
Dave - 12 Years Ago
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Dave - 12 Years Ago
                     Dave,
Thanks for the super quick response again.
I have...
LMK - 12 Years Ago
                         The respective zip file downloads and extracts perfectly fine for me...
Dave - 12 Years Ago
                             Dear Dave,
I'm still having trouble which must mean its an issue...
LMK - 12 Years Ago
                                 Weird. Anyway, I'm pasting the syntax from the respective script below...
Dave - 12 Years Ago
                                     Dave,
Greatly appreciated!
Thanks, Leah
LMK - 12 Years Ago
                                         And one last time....
I'm sure I have gone with inefficient and...
LMK - 12 Years Ago
                                             Both "quirks" sound like bonafide programming errors on your part....
Dave - 12 Years Ago
                                                 Hi!
Thanks for you all your help. I went back to basis andnow...
LMK - 12 Years Ago
                                                     Umm, I've misplaced my crystal ball and tarot cards, so I'm not sure...
Dave - 12 Years Ago
                                                         Dear Dave,
Very plausible. The script is posted (to the same...
LMK - 12 Years Ago
                                                             #1: For better context, you might consider attaching any materials to...
Dave - 12 Years Ago
                                                                 Dear Dave,
Very good points.... I guess I'm getting too tired to...
LMK - 12 Years Ago
                                                                     Well, you have 15 items available in your nonmatched picture...
Dave - 12 Years Ago
                                                                         I'm pretty confident that this is not the problem.
When I...
LMK - 12 Years Ago
                                                                             Correct, that's not the *only* problem. The selection problem is due...
Dave - 12 Years Ago
                                                                                 Again, THANK YOU!
I had been wondering how this works. I think...
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